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Post by Lillias on Nov 1, 2017 20:46:45 GMT
Just started tonight. I'm getting this pop-up whizzing in from the bottom right of my screen and just wondered if anyone else is having/has had this. I'm getting really fed up with Microsoft and their updates. Why do they need to constantly change the ways of doing things...it makes you wonder what is legitimate and what isn't...  |
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Post by Lillias on Nov 1, 2017 21:09:02 GMT
Sorry folks just discovered this relates to the new Windows Fall Creators Update. Why couldn't they just have offered it in the usual way instead of frightening the pants off people with a pop-up flying in from the side...I'm nervous enough about these updates without this kind of thing.
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Post by michelb on Nov 2, 2017 9:04:09 GMT
Sorry folks just discovered this relates to the new Windows Fall Creators Update. Why couldn't they just have offered it in the usual way instead of frightening the pants off people with a pop-up flying in from the side...I'm nervous enough about these updates without this kind of thing. I just updated a few days ago. Looking at the updates log, I did see a failed first attempt to install the update. The second manual attempt did succeed, but it took something like two hours. That's a big update, so it's good they are warning beforehand. I am not concerned with the new features for the moment. That update is important for people who had problems with the fonts engine and cache among others. (version 1709) |
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Post by BuckSkin on Nov 7, 2017 17:22:10 GMT
Amidst all manner of warnings to the contrary, quite some time ago, I set all of our machines to never accept any updates; since then, I don't seem to have a tenth the problems as I read of others having.
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Post by Sepiana on Nov 7, 2017 19:48:35 GMT
I set all of our machines to never accept any updates; since then, I don't seem to have a tenth the problems as I read of others having. BuckSkin, I am curious. How did you manage this? From the way I understand it, we can still postpone or even turn off Windows 10 Automatic Updates but it all depends on which version of Windows 10 we use.
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Post by BuckSkin on Nov 7, 2017 20:03:08 GMT
I set all of our machines to never accept any updates; since then, I don't seem to have a tenth the problems as I read of others having. BuckSkin, I am curious. How did you manage this? From the way I understand it, we can still postpone or even turn off Windows 10 Automatic Updates but it all depends on which version of Windows 10 we use.
Maybe on account of all of our machines are Windows 7; it was easy in Windows 7. I am adamant about avoiding anything more recent than Windows 7; it does everything I could ever need and it does it well. |
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Post by Sepiana on Nov 7, 2017 20:10:50 GMT
Maybe on account of all of our machines are Windows 7; it was easy in Windows 7. OK! I got it! You were talking about Windows 7. Thanks for the clarification! I was already checking The Missing Manual for Windows 10; I thought I was missing something.  |
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Post by BuckSkin on Nov 7, 2017 20:37:45 GMT
Maybe on account of all of our machines are Windows 7; it was easy in Windows 7. OK! I got it! You were talking about Windows 7. Thanks for the clarification! I was already checking The Missing Manual for Windows 10; I thought I was missing something. You could use an Ethernet switch and simply switch off the outside world whenever they are sending updates. I really like our manual internet ON/OFF switch; I defy any unwanted organisms to get past that when it is OFF. |
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Post by WayneS on Nov 8, 2017 20:27:17 GMT
Maybe on account of all of our machines are Windows 7; it was easy in Windows 7. OK! I got it! You were talking about Windows 7. Thanks for the clarification! I was already checking The Missing Manual for Windows 10; I thought I was missing something. Just curious Buckskin, what are your plans when Microsoft drops all support for W7, if they haven't already? |
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Post by BuckSkin on Nov 8, 2017 20:39:36 GMT
OK! I got it! You were talking about Windows 7. Thanks for the clarification! I was already checking The Missing Manual for Windows 10; I thought I was missing something. Just curious Buckskin, what are your plans when Microsoft drops all support for W7, if they haven't already? I have never really understood just exactly what this "support" is supposed to be; I guess I will just ride along as far as it goes and see what happens. If Microsoft has been providing me with something I will miss out on later, I honestly don't know what it is. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2017 21:26:27 GMT
I have never really understood just exactly what this "support" is supposed to be; I guess I will just ride along as far as it goes and see what happens. If Microsoft has been providing me with something I will miss out on later, I honestly don't know what it is. Out of interest, do you stop all Microsoft updates, or just the ones you believe are not necessary for your systems? I am thinking mainly about the security updates that come out. Once Microsoft stops the Windows 7 support, there will no longer be any security updates for that OS, which could leave your systems exposed and vunerable. |
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Post by BuckSkin on Nov 8, 2017 22:09:56 GMT
I have never really understood just exactly what this "support" is supposed to be; I guess I will just ride along as far as it goes and see what happens. If Microsoft has been providing me with something I will miss out on later, I honestly don't know what it is. Out of interest, do you stop all Microsoft updates, or just the ones you believe are not necessary for your systems? I am thinking mainly about the security updates that come out. Once Microsoft stops the Windows 7 support, there will no longer be any security updates for that OS, which could leave your systems exposed and vunerable. I stopped all updates a long time ago. Honestly, I believe 99% of this security business is no more than a marketing point and a scare tactic; I may be talking different after I get attacked..... |
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Post by Sepiana on Nov 9, 2017 3:12:42 GMT
I have never really understood just exactly what this "support" is supposed to be; I guess I will just ride along as far as it goes and see what happens.
Microsoft offers two kinds of OS support.
Mainstream support:
- Free phone support, free online support, and non-security updates.
- This support for Windows 7 ended on January 13, 2015.
Extended support:
- Security updates.
- This support for Windows 7 will end on Jan. 14, 2020.
Simone made a valid point (with which I totally agree). Continuing to use Windows 7 once the extended support ends . . .
could leave your systems exposed and vunerable.
Microsoft's decision to end support for a version of Windows is based on its lifecycle.
Windows lifecycle fact sheet
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Post by Andy on Nov 14, 2017 23:45:06 GMT
I stopped all updates a long time ago. Honestly, I believe 99% of this security business is no more than a marketing point and a scare tactic; I may be talking different after I get attacked..... I'm in the IT field and the security threats are very real. The most recent threats hit Microsoft XP systems hard because they weren't patched (just as the National Health Service in the UK and Merck pharmaceuticals). Without your operating system being patched, unless you aren't on the internet, you are vulnerable to a whole lot of nasty stuff. The really nasty stuff is ransomware - your hard drive gets encrypted and you can't decrypt it without paying the ransom. If you aren't going to take the patches, I hope you are very diligent about maintaining backups. That may be the only thing that saves you if your machine gets hit. |
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