preeb
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Post by preeb on May 22, 2019 0:09:49 GMT
I think that it's time for Sepiana or another admin to step in and clarify all of this. It's a Fact that this challenge was originally intended to inspire us to get out and use our cameras to take a current photo that fits the theme of the thread. It's also a fact that there was originally just a one week limit on each challenge, a limitation which was expanded by the administrator. It seems improper to me that those who have joined since then are allowed to set their own rules, especially after being politely informed of how the challenge is supposed to be met. Is it really that difficult to just make that effort? I have about 25,000 photos that I could choose from, meeting every week's challenge, and never again having to step away from my desk (and I could remove any EXIF data). I choose to take the challenge as originally set up.
I'm not trying to ruffle any feathers, just get the requirements clarified.
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Post by Bailey on May 22, 2019 0:30:28 GMT
... I'm not trying to ruffle any feathers, just get the requirements clarified. On this I agree with you 110%  For a long time now members have been posting old images that fit the week's theme as I demonstrated with examples last week. I have no problem with that at all. Imho that should be allowed and is clearly allowed under the current "rules" which are very vague and really just a guide line or suggestion, at best, as many members have clearly taken them as.
The point I was making last week is that the rules/guide lines need to be applied consistently and they clearly were not last week. For me, I don't need a weekly challenge set by someone else to get me to use my camera. Very rarely a week goes by where I don't use my camera to photograph something or things. If that something meets the weekly challenge then I would probably submit it. But if it doesn't and I happen to have photographed something last week or last month or whenever that does meet the weekly theme then that photograph should also be acceptable. If someone needs a weekly theme set to inspire them and motivate them to use their camera that is all well and good as well. And the bottom line is that you cannot enforce any rules because as I mentioned last week it is very easy to edit/manipulate or remove exif data and so who knows who actually took a posted photo or when it was actually taken. I am happy for the rules/guide lines to remain as they are if that is the way Sepiana wants to run this thread as long as the guide lines are applied consistently across all members. |
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Post by Peterj on May 22, 2019 0:46:29 GMT
So now the second page is required for only 7 images posted for this challenge. Maybe we should start a writing challenge with no images permitted.
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Post by pontiac1940 on May 22, 2019 1:24:02 GMT
I'll post some verts/portraits in a while. There are two sides to this. (How's that for fence sitting? ) I like the idea of having to get out to take photos for the weekly challenge. The weather has been bleck here, but I went out this afternoon specifically to shoot some portrait photos. So that part is great. Although I try to get out a lot in winter, sometimes that's not possible and I'd like to be able to use archives photos. (Since getting a DSLR in 2005, I've taken around 250K digital images and surely have 150,000 images on numerous hard drives sort of randomly organized and I can usually find a specific photo..usually..sometimes.  ) I just like taking my camera for a walk and don't need a purpose. But sometimes this senior needs an inspiration and a weekly challenge can spur me on. I am easy either way. Clive |
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Post by blackmutt on May 22, 2019 1:37:09 GMT
I am with you Clive, lately and with no end in sight, it's likely I might drown if I headed out with my camera. Rain rain rain....but I like the idea that sometimes a challenge forces me to grab the camera with an actual purpose. Not that I need one, but it helps.
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Post by pontiac1940 on May 22, 2019 2:59:34 GMT
HA! Opened the first image being considered for this triptych and immediately was going to resize it with the crop tool .. ooops. Just needed resizing.  Sort of odd, I used to teach outdoor photog classes and one key suggestion was (is still) to tip the camera in its side. It somehow seemed difficult today. Anyway, herewith a triptych of two (?) different yellow-headed blackbirds perched atop old cattail heads across the road. Was having trouble getting close to them 2 weeks ago, but there were no ladies around. Well, now the ladies are about and the boys are more interested in them than some old git with a camera. I was able to get within (what?) maybe 5 or 6 meters. All three photos were shot at 400-mm and ISO 640 and this dreary day. Coaldale, Alberta, May 21.  |
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Post by Bailey on May 22, 2019 4:05:28 GMT
Ok, we're back on track now |
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Post by Bailey on May 22, 2019 23:21:09 GMT
... Most are at ease using their camera the "normal" way and don't always think about the "other" orientation and that is what this challenge is all about. Grab your camera (as stated above) and experiment in portrait orientation. Yes that is probably true for most people. The overwhelming majority of my photos are in landscape orientation, but a significant number are in portrait. For me, choosing between portrait or landscape orientation is mainly a compositional consideration. Sometimes it's a "no brainer" as to which orientation to use. Sometimes when setting up I quickly turn my camera 90deg for a quick check to see which composition is better. The other main benefit of portrait orientation for me is that because the longer side of the frame is now vertical, I can use a longer focal length to get the same vertical FOV as landscape and so consequently extract more detail in the subject and captured scene overall. When shooting photos to make a panorama I always shoot in portrait mode. This allows me to use a longer focal length, with the benefit mentioned above, and also results in a much higher pixel count stitched panorama which helps produce a higher quality print if I eventually print it. |
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Post by blackmutt on May 23, 2019 0:32:10 GMT
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Post by Bailey on May 23, 2019 6:11:04 GMT
Lovely composite blackmutt. The colours blend together really nicely . I strongly hope that your image is not queried as it could be seen to potentially be against the "rule"
and I suspect your edited image is significantly different from the original photo.
"Basics" in this context is very wishy-washy and meaningless because what might be a basic set of edits for someone might be much more complex for a newbie to image editing and compositing.
If this type of transformation is allowed then it opens up a whole lot of additional possibilities for members in future challenges which can only be a good thing imo. Dennis I agree with you. I feel the challenge is to get out and shoot a photo that fits the challenge not look back at the hundreds of photos I have that fit the challenge. Please, Bailey do not try to make something out of nothing. Maybe it could be for some members, but I feel you could be seen by some members and visitors as being selective in which "rules" you follow and which you ignore. As I mentioned above, I hope your submission is allowed because it will give me, at least, an opportunity to try something new in future challenges. |
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Post by blackmutt on May 23, 2019 9:58:38 GMT
Bailey sorry to disappoint but I did almost nothing to this photo. No crop a slight black slider and that is it. Not sure what your point is.
i will post the original later.
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Post by Bailey on May 23, 2019 10:03:44 GMT
You said Almost straight out of the camera. Used a piece of scrapbook paper for the background. Maybe if you post the original photo SOOC without the scrapbook paper background you used, what you did will be clearer. |
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Post by Bailey on May 23, 2019 10:11:05 GMT
aaaahhhh...the penny has finally dropped  .
The scrapbook paper is actually in the original photo. I thought you substituted the original background with a paper background image file.
I must have had a "senior's moment" when I first looked at your image .
My apologies.
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Post by blackmutt on May 23, 2019 10:11:09 GMT
What are you tallking about?? What was i supposed to do throw it up in the air and take it mid flight.? Would taking the same photo on a rustic wooden table mean it does fit the challenge? I had to sit it somewhere and whete you place an object is not photoshopping. Please Bailey let it go and try to enjoy life and this forum.
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Post by Bailey on May 23, 2019 10:15:31 GMT
No problem blackmutt....as I mentioned, it was my mistake |
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Sort of odd, I used to teach outdoor photog classes and one key suggestion was (is still) to tip the camera in its side. It somehow seemed difficult today.
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