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Post by Sepiana on Aug 22, 2015 22:10:54 GMT
The only thing I'm worried about is whether I'm going to have problems reconnecting files..... Bayla
My latest computer has the SSD + HD combo. I just followed Michel's advice.
A word of caution about a common practice with SSDs and organizer catalogs. Many users keep their catalogs and library on the system drive (not the best choice, as already stated). They install the new OS on the SSD and keep the original drive, which now gets a new drive letter. As a result, the files are disconnected and its difficult to solve the problem. The best solution, before installing the SSD is to move your library and catalogs to another (internal or external) drive or partition via the backup/restore process (move to 'custom' location). You'll have nothing special to do when you start the Organizer from the SSD, only find the moved catalog. |
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Post by Bayla on Aug 22, 2015 23:35:13 GMT
My photos are split between two places - long story, but basically years ago on an old computer I was running out of space on my HD so moved all pictures & scrapbooking supplies to an external HD (which in turn was backed up!), but when I got my new computer 18 months ago, started keeping my pictures on the new internal 1TB HD - they are backed up to different external HD, but not sure what will happen when I put everything back onto the new HD!.....if the drive letters are all different then I presume the Organiser won't recognise them?
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Post by Andy on Aug 23, 2015 12:58:28 GMT
The only thing I'm worried about is whether I'm going to have problems reconnecting files..... As long as the files all stay in the same folders, then PSE should be able to reconnect them pretty easily. |
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Post by michelb on Aug 23, 2015 16:08:49 GMT
The only thing I'm worried about is whether I'm going to have problems reconnecting files..... As long as the files all stay in the same folders, then PSE should be able to reconnect them pretty easily. Yes, in theory... psekb.blogspot.in/2013/03/how-do-i-reconnect-missing-files-in.htmlThat said, I only recommend the reconnect procedure for individual folders or relatively simple folder trees. For moving a whole library, the safest and simplest method is the backup/restore. helpx.adobe.com/photoshop-elements/kb/backup-restore-move-catalog-photoshop.htmlYou restore to a custom location on a different drive from your system one, which means your library and your catalog will be accessible to any computer with the same PSE version. It's a common way to share your libraries and catalogs. |
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Post by davehagg on Aug 23, 2015 19:51:10 GMT
I looked into SSD drives for back ups. The only drawback I saw was the price vs the number of times you can re-write to them. It's my understanding of the circuitry in them limits the re-writes. I personally like flash (thumb) drives for my photo back ups because they are making them so large for storage. Both have their own purpose depending on your needs, but just something to think about. I have never used a SSD drive so I'm just talking from what I've read .... Dave
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Post by Andy on Aug 24, 2015 1:39:37 GMT
I would never trust a thumbdrive for a backup, unless maybe I was making duplicate backups on multiple thumbdrives. Yes, there are write limitations to SSDs, but my main reason not to use them is the price/Gb. Basic mechanical hard drives are hard to beat for backup (and they can be connected by USB).
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Post by elines on Aug 24, 2015 13:58:37 GMT
I've found this discussion very interesting (even if I haven't understood all of it  and as a result have amended my order for a new computer to include an SSD drive. Discussing it with the supplier (a reputable firm that build computers to an individual spec) it should do what I want eg boot up quickly.
As I understand it because:
- Windows and other software purchased with the computer will already be put on the SSD drive by the supplier
- I will be installing a fresh CC + elements 11 + nik software etc to the SSD drive (rather than transferring it from the hard drive of the same computer)
It should be reasonably straight forward (but then I do have a habit of getting things wrong/misunderstanding things) and if it isn't I have a knowledgeable friend, plus a local firm, that should be able to sort me out (  )
I also found this article of help in considering what to do:
www.pcworld.com/article/2110095/the-ultimate-guide-to-proper-ssd-management.html
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Post by estherf on Aug 28, 2015 16:36:23 GMT
Thanks for the link regarding ssd management. I will send it to my son.
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Post by elines on Aug 29, 2015 20:02:00 GMT
You are welcome Esther.
My new computer should be arriving next week and - assuming I can get it going - I will be able to let you know what I think
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Post by Bayla on Aug 30, 2015 18:56:48 GMT
Well I thought I'd give everyone an update - I went with the SSD + 1TB HD combination & so far so good. The difference in the speed the pc boots up is phenomenal. Also I have put PSE on the SSD and that boots up in a few seconds. I also noticed when I added some actions & deleted the Mediadatabase that it re uilds in seconds. I used to have to go out and make & drink a cup of tea whilst waiting! Thanks to everyone for your advice ? Bayla |
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Post by michelb on Aug 30, 2015 19:24:32 GMT
Thanks everyone for your advice. I am going with an SSD + HD combination, but I am not doing it myself, despite Andy's assertion that it is 'really quite simple' - I haven't forgotten my attempts to install extra RAM in a computer a few years ago....hot day+ large hands working in small area + sweaty fingers which slipped & broke the essential bit for retaining the RAM. Swore never again to mess with the innards of the CPU! The only thing I'm worried about is whether I'm going to have problems reconnecting files..... Bayla In any case, run a full organizer backup. (It's necessary if you install on a brand new computer without using the old drives). As mentioned earlier, the best step BEFORE the change of drives is to have your library in another drive that the system C: drive. - your library: if it is under the 'My Pictures' folder in the C: drive, you can use the organizer to drag and drop that master folder on another internal or external drive. - your catalogs: you can find the catalog folders from the menu Help/System Info. You can copy or move them on another drive if you want. Common situation: the old C: drive is re-installed in your computer under a new letter (let's say F:) together with the SSD drive. You can find the old catalog on the F: drive. If you have not moved your library, all links in the catalog will point to the F: drive, which is false... but to the same drive serial number as before. That may help the organizer keep the files connected... but I would not trust the catalog to run fine with this inconsistencies for future backups. If the library has been moved to another drive than C: you'll simply have to take care that the drive letter is not changed by the inclusion of the SSD. You can change the drive letter in Windows if needed. Even if you miss those steps, you'll be able to restore your backup to 'custom' location. One other question is the choice of the location of the catalogs: on the SSD (if it's big enough) or in a standard drive. I have no personal experience, but it has been reported that for Lightroom catalogs, storing catalogs on the SSD does not help much. |
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Post by elines on Sept 1, 2015 18:09:34 GMT
When I start setting up my new pc tomorrow - ssd +1TB - I am hoping that if i put pse 11 and CC/PS/LR on the ssd and pictures folder on the 1 TB then lr and pse will create new catalogues. I haven't used organiser in pse in any systematic way so if I lose the existing one then it is no big deal
Or am I getting this all wrong?
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Post by Andy on Sept 2, 2015 11:00:44 GMT
You can certainly have both PSE and LR create new catalogs, but you don't need to. You can do a backup of PSE catalog and restore it to the SSD. In LR, I believe you would have to manually reconnect the photos.
My question is why you are using two tools for organization? I think you are better off using either the PSE Organizer or LR, not both (and if you are using LR, I would stay with that).
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Post by elines on Sept 2, 2015 18:39:46 GMT
You can certainly have both PSE and LR create new catalogs, but you don't need to. ...... I think you are better off using either the PSE Organizer or LR, not both (and if you are using LR, I would stay with that). The real answer is that I haven't thought about this. Ps/cc/lr will be totally new to me so if lr has an 'organiser' then that will do for me |
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Post by Andy on Sept 2, 2015 22:36:04 GMT
LR has a very robust organizer function (better than PSE in my opinion). It has built-in integration with Elements for editing.
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and as a result have amended my order for a new computer to include an SSD drive. Discussing it with the supplier (a reputable firm that build computers to an individual spec) it should do what I want eg boot up quickly.
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