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Post by maghdalena on Oct 17, 2016 9:36:46 GMT
OK. I got rid of the original layer that I unlocked, and I'm still getting the diagonal transparent line. See Screenshot here: Hope this helps and I'm not screwing it up too much. Trying to do what your instructions are saying Maghdalena A funny thing happened when I did this. I did like you said, and unlocked the background which did like you said. I have a Windows and not a Mac, but I did the magic wand and the Command/Control J, and it goes into layer 1. Fine. But when I do the second one, the lower right, and I do the Command/Control J, it makes Layer 2, but the second one is...transparent. I tried it again with the lower right first, and again it worked, the first time, but the second time, no matter if it's the upper left or lower right, it goes to a layer but is shown as a transparent layer. Once there with the layer 1, the color changes just fine. But what do I do about the second layer. Is there a workaround with it? Like making a duplicate layer (for layer 1) and then rotating it. Will that actually work? And why does it show the second time with the second half as transparent no matter which one I start with. Any advice guys and gals? There is no need for a workaround. Janice's instructions work just fine.
If your image says "background" in the layers panel, you need to turn it into a regular layer. On the right edge of the layer in the layers panel, you will see a lock - drag that to the trashcan and your layer will change to "layer 0". Using the magic wand, select one of the triangles. Command/Control J will put that triangle on it's own layer. Select it again, hit delete on your original. You now have two layers. Each will have transparency on the half that doesn't have color.
After you place the first triangle on its own layer (Layer 1), you need to load it as a selection. Ctrl-Click on the triangle layer thumbnail (not on the layer name). You will see marching ants around it. Now go back to the original background layer (the one you unlocked -- Layer 0) and press the Delete key. You should end up with this.
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Post by maghdalena on Oct 17, 2016 9:40:38 GMT
OK. Where do you go to find the tool options? I'm not sure I'm looking in the right place. it's not in "Preferences"? EDIT In another thread, it was pointed out that my paint bucket instructions may have missed a point in it's usage. After you grab the paint bucket tool, make sure 'contiguous' is clicked in the tool options - that will make the tool behave as I have outlined above. |
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Post by maghdalena on Oct 17, 2016 9:52:16 GMT
OK. Trying to do it from scratch, and got the polygon lasso, and make a diagonal line and triangle, but when I try to put it on it's own layer, it says: "Could not make a new layer from the selection because no pixels are selected. Here's the screenshot. What am I missing. Am I doing the panel wrong? I'm not understanding this. What am I doing wrong? I feel so stupid sometimes, and I'm not an artist. Could you help me? I can't even complete the first step. Magbdalena I need to make a flag design that has two colors that are diagonal as follows:  What we want to do is put the upper left half on one layer and lower right half on another layer, then put the two together, after we determine the colors so we don't mix one area with the other. How do we do this the fastest way. We need to divide this pattern into the upper left half and a lower right half on two layers so we can color-edit them.
If you want to start from scratch, . . .
1. Create a new file (File>New>Blank File).
2. Activate the Polygonal Lasso tool and draw a diagonal panel.
3. Place the panel on its own layer (Ctrl-J).
4. Duplicate this panel layer (Ctrl-J).
5. Go to Image>Rotate>Rotate Layer 180°.
6. Ctrl-Click on this duplicate layer thumbnail (not on the layer name). NOTE: This will load it as a selection. You will see marching ants around it.
7. Go to Edit>Fill Selection and fill it with the color you want.
8. Go back to the other panel layer and repeat Steps 6 and 7.
9. Save your file as PSD or TIFF to keep the layers intact. (In this way, you can go back and change the colors of the panels if you want.)
OPTIONAL:
Create a composite layer, a combination of all your visible layers. The advantage of creating such a layer is that you can work on it without affecting the other layers. When you run the Stamp Visible command, Elements automatically creates a new layer at the top of the stack and then fills it with the contents of the other layers.
1. Make sure the top layer is selected.
2. Run the Stamp Visible Command by pressing Shift-Alt-Ctrl-E.
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Post by maghdalena on Oct 17, 2016 10:29:19 GMT
I tried it again, with a white background, and used the polygonal lasso, then made the layer with the control J command, then duplicated the layer like you said to. But then the problem came in when I tried to rotate the duplicate layer, with it highlighted, and both layer one and layer 2 rotated. I had layer 1 hidden, and it still rotated. I thought I had the duplicate layer, so why is this not working. I thought it wasn't supposed to see the "hidden layers". Am I doing something wrong with the layer selected? I only have 3 layers, the background, the layer 1 (both of which are hidden) and layer 1 copy, but they both are switching together. Argh! How do I make sure I'm working with the right layer, the duplicate one? That's on the top, and layer 1, then background on the bottom. See screenshot. Can you tell me what I'm doing wrong? Hellp! The other way seems to work better, but I still don't know what I did right there, and wrong here. Thanks for your patience, sorry to be such a pain. Trying to hang in there. :/ Maghdalena I need to make a flag design that has two colors that are diagonal as follows: What we want to do is put the upper left half on one layer and lower right half on another layer, then put the two together, after we determine the colors so we don't mix one area with the other. How do we do this the fastest way. We need to divide this pattern into the upper left half and a lower right half on two layers so we can color-edit them.
If you want to start from scratch, . . .
1. Create a new file (File>New>Blank File).
2. Activate the Polygonal Lasso tool and draw a diagonal panel.
3. Place the panel on its own layer (Ctrl-J).
4. Duplicate this panel layer (Ctrl-J).
5. Go to Image>Rotate>Rotate Layer 180°.
6. Ctrl-Click on this duplicate layer thumbnail (not on the layer name). NOTE: This will load it as a selection. You will see marching ants around it.
7. Go to Edit>Fill Selection and fill it with the color you want.
8. Go back to the other panel layer and repeat Steps 6 and 7.
9. Save your file as PSD or TIFF to keep the layers intact. (In this way, you can go back and change the colors of the panels if you want.)
OPTIONAL:
Create a composite layer, a combination of all your visible layers. The advantage of creating such a layer is that you can work on it without affecting the other layers. When you run the Stamp Visible command, Elements automatically creates a new layer at the top of the stack and then fills it with the contents of the other layers.
1. Make sure the top layer is selected.
2. Run the Stamp Visible Command by pressing Shift-Alt-Ctrl-E.
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Post by cats4jan on Oct 17, 2016 11:29:38 GMT
 The 'rotate' option has two sections - the top section rotates the entire image (all the layers), the bottom section rotates only the layer you are on. You want the option that says "rotate LAYER" _________________________ In answer to your questions about how to you know which layer you are on -- look to your layers panel - the active layer is blue |
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Post by cats4jan on Oct 17, 2016 11:35:44 GMT
In answer to your question about "no pixels selected"
When you start with a transparent background and try to create something, you have to make a selection and then do something with that selection such as fill it - usually with color.
Making a selection and using Control J will only work when you have some pixels to select as you have discovered with your use of a white background. You cannot select NOTHING. When you select "nothing" - you will get the 'no pixels selected' warning because you have selected nothing.
I think what is confusing is the use of the word select - you can make a selection and fill it with something - and you can make a selection of something and then do another function with that selection. They are two entirely different things with different outcomes, yet we use the word 'selection' for both.
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Post by cats4jan on Oct 17, 2016 11:43:23 GMT
Each tool has it's own options bar. When you select the tool, the options bar changes. In older versions of PSE, the tool options are across the top of the screen. In newer versions, the "tool options" is at the bottom. In my version of PSE, my tool bar is at the bottom of the screen. If you have a newer version of PSE like I do, you may not see the options because you have 'photo bin' chosen. In this graphic, you can see 'tool options' is highlighted that is why you can see the options |
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Post by cats4jan on Oct 17, 2016 11:54:26 GMT
You are making this unnecessarily difficult.
You mastered step one. You put your one color on it's own layer.
Now you want to delete the color you put on it's own layer FROM THE ORIGINAL LAYER. That's where selecting it again and then deleting comes in.
You want to go back to the original layer, use your magic wand AGAIN - on the same color - then hit delete.
You should end up with only two layers. Each with a transparent half.
When you are learning PSE, everyone falls into the trap of making the same mistake over and over again. We think we are following steps, but really, we are not wiping the original mistake from our minds as we try again. It's the nature of the beast. It's incredibly frustrating, but eventually, it will click.
Hang in there. I will hang in there with you.
I sent you a PM Access PM's under "messages" on the top of this page.
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Post by Sepiana on Oct 17, 2016 17:37:06 GMT
You are making this unnecessarily difficult. I beg to differ. This thread is getting long and convoluted with all the quotes. This is making it difficult to keep the flow of the troubleshooting and to find the different suggestions. The problem in question was addressed in detail (with screen shots) earlier in this thread.
www.photoshopelementsandmore.com/post/27759
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Post by cats4jan on Oct 17, 2016 20:16:25 GMT
What I meant was, this isn't as difficult as she thinks it is. It's a simple case of making two triangular layers - each with color on one half and transparency on the other half
The complexity comes in because we are going off on tangents about other issues because PSE is difficult to use when one is first learning. When a beginner starts working with it, issues come up and one naturally wants to talk about the issues that come up. Threads often go off on tangents, then.
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Post by maghdalena on Oct 19, 2016 4:58:04 GMT
Jan, Thanks. That explains everything. I was giving it the wrong command. Trying the duplicate layer, with it selected, and the rotating layer command, and it did what I wanted. Still feel a little awkward with the polygonic lasso, though. Thanks so much. I do still have a problem with too much white on three corners (see screenshot below) Any way to make these white spots disappear without screwing it up? Then all I have to do is put in the foreground symbol, I guess, but one thing at a time. The 'rotate' option has two sections - the top section rotates the entire image (all the layers), the bottom section rotates only the layer you are on. You want the option that says "rotate LAYER" _________________________ In answer to your questions about how to you know which layer you are on -- look to your layers panel - the active layer is blue  |
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Post by cats4jan on Oct 19, 2016 9:04:49 GMT
Your layers are slightly askew, however, rotating just a little will be difficult. Have you tried filling those areas with the paint bucket?
Another option is to move the two layers closer together to fill that center gap and then cropping the whole project (using the crop tool) to get rid of the gaps around the outer edge.
I'd also get rid of the background layer, it's not needed. To delete the background layer, you may need to unlock it first.
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Post by maghdalena on Oct 21, 2016 5:00:20 GMT
Jan, Yes, the paint can worked. I had to futz around with it, and get it just right, but it worked for both the red and green. I wasn't really sure about how to move the layers closer together, but since the paint can worked, I don't have to crop it, as far as I can see, and I deleted the "background" layer without any problem, as you can see from the screenshot below. Thanks a lot all of you. This part is done. So all that is left is working with the foreground image and working with the colors. Your layers are slightly askew, however, rotating just a little will be difficult. Have you tried filling those areas with the paint bucket? Another option is to move the two layers closer together to fill that center gap and then cropping the whole project (using the crop tool) to get rid of the gaps around the outer edge. I'd also get rid of the background layer, it's not needed. To delete the background layer, you may need to unlock it first.  free
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Post by cats4jan on Oct 21, 2016 9:30:04 GMT
Glad to hear the paint bucket did the trick
FYI - to do small incremental movement of layers, choose a layer by clicking on it in the layers panel. Grab the move tool. Use the arrow keys to move the layer one pixel at a time.
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Post by maghdalena on Oct 25, 2016 4:56:29 GMT
Glad to hear the paint bucket did the trick FYI - to do small incremental movement of layers, choose a layer by clicking on it in the layers panel. Grab the move tool. Use the arrow keys to move the layer one pixel at a time. Thanks, Jan, I'll try to remember that! Save |
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A funny thing happened when I did this. I did like you said, and unlocked the background which did like you said. I have a Windows and not a Mac, but I did the magic wand and the Command/Control J, and it goes into layer 1. Fine. But when I do the second one, the lower right, and I do the Command/Control J, it makes Layer 2, but the second one is...transparent. I tried it again with the lower right first, and again it worked, the first time, but the second time, no matter if it's the upper left or lower right, it goes to a layer but is shown as a transparent layer. Once there with the layer 1, the color changes just fine. 
If your image says "background" in the layers panel, you need to turn it into a regular layer. On the right edge of the layer in the layers panel, you will see a lock - drag that to the trashcan and your layer will change to "layer 0".
