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Post by BuckSkin on Nov 7, 2017 19:57:08 GMT
I am still procrastinating and also a bit hesitant in getting hooked into some sort of photo-hosting site so that interested parties can see my pictures.
Many of my acquaintances have been begging me to start a FaceBook account so they can see my pictures and I may finally give in and join up; however, a few things I dislike about FaceBook, one of the obvious being a continual never-ending stream of useless hogwash that I would just as soon do without; and, another being that, from what I see, FaceBook really degrades the quality of an image and, unless there is a trick I have not yet learned, photos will not view very large --- no full-screen view.
I have thought Flickr might be a better solution for me; my thoughts are, I could join FaceBook and somehow then have a link on my FaceBook page that will take "friends" straight to my Flickr pictures; is this even possible ?
It is my understanding that Flickr displays your images in the same quality that you provide.
It is also my understanding that Flickr doesn't automatically "crop" images, but instead, shows them exactly as you post them.
I don't let anyone see the pictures I have taken until I have them ready to be seen; and, along this same reasoning, after I have spent several days preparing photos, I don't want my efforts to be trashed by some automatic soccer-mom process.
Whatever route I go, considering my current poverty, anything that I have to pay a fee for is out of the question.
What I would really like is a site all my own, but that is probably too rich for my blood.
I am open for suggestions and advice.
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Post by whippet on Nov 7, 2017 20:25:54 GMT
I have used Picture Trail for years. That suits me fine . . . and it is free.
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Post by BuckSkin on Nov 7, 2017 20:40:05 GMT
I have used Picture Trail for years. That suits me fine . . . and it is free. That is a first for me; I never heard of it before. I will definitely look it up and check it out. Thanks ! |
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Post by Peterj on Nov 7, 2017 21:29:55 GMT
I am still procrastinating and also a bit hesitant in getting hooked into some sort of photo-hosting site so that interested parties can see my pictures. Many of my acquaintances have been begging me to start a FaceBook account so they can see my pictures and I may finally give in and join up; however, a few things I dislike about FaceBook, one of the obvious being a continual never-ending stream of useless hogwash that I would just as soon do without; and, another being that, from what I see, FaceBook really degrades the quality of an image and, unless there is a trick I have not yet learned, photos will not view very large --- no full-screen view. I have thought Flickr might be a better solution for me; my thoughts are, I could join FaceBook and somehow then have a link on my FaceBook page that will take "friends" straight to my Flickr pictures; is this even possible ? It is my understanding that Flickr displays your images in the same quality that you provide. I have a different experience with FB - when first viewing an image on FB it's rather small. when one clicks on the image it's somewhat enlarged, hovering the mouse pointer upper right of the image and clicking the small arrow results in a full screen view. Yes you can link from FB to an image host; imgur for example. I've found most hosting sites manipulate posted images; when I'm really particular about an image I use CloudUp. |
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Post by Bailey on Nov 7, 2017 22:33:57 GMT
Hi Buckskin I am not a fan or user of FB. I also don't usually post images online because everyone's monitor will be set up differently and although images will look similar on different monitors, no two monitors will display the images' colours exactly the same. That may or may not be a concern. In any case, on the rare occasions I do post images (watermarked) online for others to view (and hopefully purchase) I use 500px.com500px is free and much better than flickr imho. Just remember, no matter where you post images online, if a visitor can view it on their monitor then they can take a copy of it (even with just a screenshot) which you cannot prevent. |
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Post by BuckSkin on Nov 7, 2017 22:55:17 GMT
hovering the mouse pointer upper right of the image and clicking the small arrow results in a full screen view. Thanks ! You just taught me something I did not know. Oh, and one more question: If I post a picture to FaceBook that is of a particular, possibly odd, dimension, will it view in the shape/ratio that I posted, or will FaceBook crop it to some standard proportion ? In any case, on the rare occasions I do post images (watermarked) online for others to view (and hopefully purchase) I use 500px.com500px is free and much better than flickr imho. Just remember, no matter where you post images online, if a visitor can view it on their monitor then they can take a copy of it (even with just a screenshot) which you cannot prevent. Thanks ! I will investigate this 500px ; and thanks for your opinion as to it's being better than Flickr. I have never yet sold a picture and would have no idea as to one's worth should someone inquire. I would be flattered if someone thought something I posted was worth downloading. |
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Post by Peterj on Nov 8, 2017 0:28:06 GMT
Oh, and one more question: If I post a picture to FaceBook that is of a particular, possibly odd, dimension, will it view in the shape/ratio that I posted, or will FaceBook crop it to some standard proportion ? Here's a screen capture of a post I made showing just a small portion - notice the larger black area that's not part of my posted image  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2017 14:43:25 GMT
Well, I use Flickr, Facebook, Instagram and my own blog hosted on Wordpress. I also used to use 500px, but to be honest, I gave that up a little while ago. The reason behind giving it up was that I found that the majority of the time I would always go back to Flickr if I wanted to share a photo either here (to upload to a challenge or my gallery) or share an album of photos with a particular person. Those are all things you cannot do in 500px (at least not when I was using it). While Flickr, like any photo hosting site, has its downsides (the ever coveted Explore being one of them imho), I like the fact that I choose who sees my photos; you can make them totally private, public or share with certain people only. The other thing is that you can share directly to Facebook and Twitter from your Flickr gallery. You can join groups and participate in their photo quests (there is a very active and popular Monday Macro group that springs to mind) and build some good friendships if you find the right people. And if you use Lightroom you can publish your photos straight from Lightroom to Flickr. One more thing to note regarding Flickr is that there is a paid for service called "Pro", which to be honest, I don't see the need for personally. It offers you among other things, the ability to get stats on your photo views, engagement by others etc. But I am not interested in any of that.
As for Facebook, I am an avid user as it helps me stay in touch with friends and family from around the world. The photos I do share on FB are either ones taken with my mobile (for one of those "look what just happend" posts) or via my blog, which is linked to posting on FB and Twitter. Because of the way I share photos on FB, I am not too worried about image quality on there.
I would encourage you to look at all the options, perhaps even consider Worpress for a free blog where you could showcase your photos and then have it linked to your Facebook account for your family and friends to see.
As for selling photos, I found EyeEm to be the best. As I said further up, I used to have my photos on 500px and also had them on their market, but I never sold one. I then heard about EyeEm, a company that started in Berlin, Germany and unlike any other stock photo company I knew at that time, they are looking for "real" photos. As long as the quality is there, it will be accepted (note that for photos containing recognizable people or buildings you will need a release, which is all done through their site). The site is free to use, you decide if you want to include a photo on their market and off you go. Since I joined them I have been fortunate enough to have sold some of my photos through them. They are always expanding on their client base and earnings on any license sold on your photos depends on the channel (Premium Collection for instance) and the type of license purchased. You will always receive 50% of the license fee. It may not seem much, but then again, this is not a main income stream for me. It's really just a bit of fun, and it is always exciting to get an email when one of your photos has sold.
If you have any questions on the points I have raised please let me know and I will be only too happy to share. Please note that I am not affiliated with any of the sites I am using, it is all just from my personal experience.
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Post by Sepiana on Nov 8, 2017 16:56:45 GMT
And if you use Lightroom you can publish your photos straight from Lightroom to Flickr.
BuckSkin,
If you don't use Lightroom, you can upload your photos to Flickr from within Elements via the Share tab. (I believe you have Elements 7 and 12.)
Share photos online (Help file)
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Post by srmoment on Nov 8, 2017 18:39:53 GMT
I use Flickr and love to upload my photos and to "follow" those photographers whose work I really enjoy. In fact, there are many Flickr users from Photoshop Elements & More (both present and past members) who use Flickr. I once upon a time had a Facebook account, but to be honest, I only checked in once in a blue moon, so I finally gave it up earlier this year. Good luck with your search  Pat Sanders |
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Post by Tpgettys on Nov 8, 2017 20:58:34 GMT
I use Flickr to share pictures of events that I host. It is pretty easy to organize them into "albums". They give you 1 terabytes of storage for free. With hundreds of full-size images I am only at 0.9% usage!
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Post by hmca on Nov 9, 2017 0:04:27 GMT
I use Flickr occasionally. I especially like the option to control who I want to share my work with. I have a friend who is very private and basically created an account to share with family on different continents. I use the free version.
Hope you find the option that works best for you.
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Post by BuckSkin on Nov 9, 2017 7:00:30 GMT
I like the fact that I choose who sees my photos; you can make them totally private, public or share with certain people only. I use Flickr occasionally. I especially like the option to control who I want to share my work with. I want to thank everyone for all the information and advice. I clicked on Simone's link to Flickr and I must say that you have some impressive pictures and Flickr displays them very well. I really like the control over who-sees-what that Flikr has. I believe that the option that will work best for my intentions is to create myself a FaceBook account (and my wife can quit fussing at me for using her's) and have a link from there to a Flikr account where I will put the better stuff. (not that I have anything that great) I attend a lot of antique machinery shows and take tons of pictures; I am always having people ask me where and how they can see the pictures I take; the majority of these people are on FaceBook, so that can be a stepping stone for them to get from there to my yet-to-be-created Flikr account. My main intention for the Flikr account is for web viewing on home computers with big monitors; we have a very limited monthly amount of data that we can use with our DISH internet; thus, I will be downsizing the files so as to not eat up all of our data; does anyone know what long-side pixel dimension would be a good starting point for me to size the pictures for optimum viewing size while keeping the file size down ? We have been sizing the wife's FaceBook images to 960 long-side and that seems to work very well; before we knew about such things, she would spend half the night loading a bunch of full-size images and drain our monthly allotment; the first time we tried a batch that had been down-sized to 960 long-side, what had been taking half the night was accomplished in a matter of minutes. Thanks for reading. |
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Post by BuckSkin on Nov 10, 2017 9:12:33 GMT
I did a bit of internet searching and found a guy who had did quite a bit of trial and error in a quest to find the best image dimension for optimum viewing on Flickr; his information was current in June of 2013.
He found that an image uploaded to Flickr at 2048 x 1080 displayed exactly as submitted; anything larger was automatically resized to that dimension with a loss of quality in the process; likewise anything smaller.
That is still a fairly hefty package for my poor little minimal allotment to be uploading by the dozen; I may end up making a compromise --- but compromises go hard against my grain......
Of course, this information is some four-years-plus old and things may be completely different now.
I just spent the last little bit getting enlisted in Flickr, but that is as far as I have gotten; I need to figure out how to use it now.
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Post by hmca on Nov 10, 2017 16:22:13 GMT
BuckSkin , I know it took me awhile to be comfortable with Flickr's site. Hope this might help you get started. I usually upload my pictures with the longest side at 1200 and a resolution of 240. I am pleased with the way the picture presents at this setting. If you click on the icon with your avatar you will find lots of info to help you get started.  In particular, I would recommend you check your settings to limit who may download your pictures. I have mine set to no one.  After you click the little cloud for upload you can make the following adjustments via the panel on the left:  Privacy Check and tags. After you click tags you can add descriptors for your image. Click return after each.  I often forget to add a title!  Before upload is complete you get a final reminder: 
Hope this helps. If you have any questions post back and I or another Flickr user should be able to help.
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