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Post by cats4jan on Apr 24, 2018 12:28:05 GMT
If you post the photo on a bird watching website, they will identify it for you. I can't remember the one I used way back when, but I got an immediate response.
As for the cropping in one of your photos, I prefer the one which is not centered. In photographing and in cropping, I think amateurs like myself are inclined to center the main object, but I have learned that a photo can be more interesting to me if the object is not centered. But it's sure hard to get away from the centering inclination. I am pretty good about things looking off my page - or off my photo - but trying to be aware of where the subject is in relation to the background is still something I'm working on.
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Post by Bailey on Apr 25, 2018 5:04:33 GMT
If you post the photo on a bird watching website, they will identify it for you. I can't remember the one I used way back when, but I got an immediate response. As for the cropping in one of your photos, I prefer the one which is not centered. In photographing and in cropping, I think amateurs like myself are inclined to center the main object, but I have learned that a photo can be more interesting to me if the object is not centered. But it's sure hard to get away from the centering inclination. I am pretty good about things looking off my page - or off my photo - but trying to be aware of where the subject is in relation to the background is still something I'm working on. Thank you so much for the tip about the bird watching web site. I do a lot of printing as well, so if I end up printing any of my bird photos it would help if I know what the birds are
Regarding composing/cropping, yes the "Rule of Thirds" is the most common one and there are other less known ones as well. In the original image I liked the blue in the background but didn't want too wide an image. In v2 of the image, after following alexr's advice I located the bird as close as possible to the left vertical thirds line without clipping the birds tail from the image and although I like both versions, I prefer v2 now as well. But sometimes composition rules can be bent or ignored, especially when the subject fills or nearly fills the frame or when centering the subject gives appropriate balance to an image. For example, the image to the right was created by alexr and I commented on it in this week's Members Choice thread. You can see the subject (mushroom) is centered. I really like that in this image because if it was off to one side, the image would have been lop-sided imho. So centering in this case worked extremely well for alexr. Photo credit: alexr Image url copied from www.photoshopelementsandmore.com/post/43895
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Post by Sepiana on Apr 25, 2018 5:11:46 GMT
The way I see it, because of the lack constructive suggestions I think we need to clarify the purpose of this forum, as it seems to me that you may have gotten confused here. This forum, as per some previous comments I made in other threads, is predominantly here to help members with their Photoshop Elements questions and problems, NOT to review each others photographs. The reason we have the "open to constructive criticism of photos" button is due to the fact that we do have areas on the forum where members can share their work and this gives others an idea whether or not the member in question would appreciate any comments on the work they have shared, be that in the "Show your Work" board or in their own user gallery. As I also previously stated, most members will actually ask for comments if they are not sure on the execution of their work. Just because someone posted their work and has the "open to constructive criticism" active, does not mean that one has to pass comment, unless specifically requested by the member, as I say, this is not this forums main purpose and is not why members post their work. If you are looking to have your work critiqued on a regular basis you have a few options: 1) Find another online community that is set up for just that; 2) Select the "open to constructive criticism" option, post your photo in the "Show your Work" board and ask members to give you constructive suggestions, or 3) Get a professional portfolio review either through an online service or in person from a respected photographer in your area.
Simone,
I couldn't have said it better myself. Excellent description of what this forum is all about and of what our members should expect when they join it. You made it crystal clear! No room left for potential misunderstandings.
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Post by cats4jan on Apr 25, 2018 5:16:14 GMT
bailey -- I agree - off center in that photo wouldn't work. It is a very cool photo just the way it is.
I don't follow the rules of thirds or any other rules - I crop the way I want my crop to turn out - regardless. But then again, my end purpose is different than photographers. I use my photos for scrapping and the end justify the means.
But I'm glad that I've become aware of a few photography parameters - like stepping closer to my subject instead of using telephoto and like being aware of what's in the background, so I don't have poles coming out of people's heads or distracting backgrounds. I know these are simple concepts, but for an amateur who still uses a P&S on Auto, any suggestion really helps me.
It's good to avoid trouble. There is just so much fixing one can do in Photoshop.
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Post by Bailey on Apr 25, 2018 5:42:13 GMT
No problem cats4jan
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Post by cats4jan on Apr 25, 2018 17:32:10 GMT
Thanks Simone
At the first link, I found this paragraph amusing -
Also at that link -
pet cat is a photo of a lion I love how this guy writes...
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Post by jackscrap on Apr 26, 2018 5:11:32 GMT
I have no idea at all what the one perched on the branch is
Hi Bailey, I'm pretty sure this is a yellow wattlebird.
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Post by Bailey on Apr 26, 2018 7:25:38 GMT
Thank you jackscrap I googled yellow wattlebird and from the Google Images, I think you are correct. I also followed up cats4jan's advice and submitted the photo on birdsinbackyard.net but no reply yet
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Post by Bailey on Apr 26, 2018 9:16:38 GMT
** Well........mystery finally solved. ** I received a reply on birdsinbackyards.net and this little bird is definitely a Red Wattlebird.When I checked Google Images for Red Wattlebird I can see that it is correct. Thank you very much for your valiant attempt to identify the bird for me jackscrap. The Yellow Wattlebird is very similar on Google Images. And thank you again cats4jan for suggesting the bird watching web site. I'm sure I'll make use of it again
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