HappyScot
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Sept 22, 2018 22:10:18 GMT
Post by HappyScot on Sept 22, 2018 22:10:18 GMT
I did a search and could not find any threads on this.
Just purchased a new PC. Have installed PE 2018 (same as old PC). BUT, the data disk on my new PC is D: drive rather than C: drive which is totally going to screw up the Organiser.
How do I proceed??
Thank you in advance.
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Sept 22, 2018 23:56:58 GMT
Post by Peterj on Sept 22, 2018 23:56:58 GMT
Where are you in the process? Where are you images now?
Did you back up your catalogue? If so restore it to the new PC.
Hopefully Michel will weigh in here and provide his expert guidance.
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HappyScot
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Sept 23, 2018 0:21:50 GMT
Post by HappyScot on Sept 23, 2018 0:21:50 GMT
Busy loading photos now but to D drive on new PC. Have backed up organiser on old pc but will await the morning before I try to restore the catalogue.
1. The old catalogue will be pointing at drive c for my photos - they will now be on drive d.
What will happen when I restore the catalogue on my new pc - will I have to reconnect all my photos???
Never had to do this before so not sure of the best way forward.
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Sept 23, 2018 0:46:29 GMT
Post by Peterj on Sept 23, 2018 0:46:29 GMT
here's an article that might guide you |
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HappyScot
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Sept 23, 2018 1:27:00 GMT
Post by HappyScot on Sept 23, 2018 1:27:00 GMT
I did read that but this is the bit I am struggling with:
If you selected New Location, click the Browse button and navigate to the folder where you want the catalog and files restored to. If you want to create a different folder for the catalog you're restoring, click Make New Folder in the Browse dialog box.
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The NAME of the restored catalog is the name of the folder you choose to restore to. If you want to keep the catalog's original name, create a folder with that name and restore the catalog to that folder.
Presumably I could just restore my photos/catalogue onto my new drive and then rename the catalogue after??
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Sept 23, 2018 1:29:07 GMT
Post by Bailey on Sept 23, 2018 1:29:07 GMT
hi happyScot,
I think this post describes your situation and provides a solution.
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Sept 23, 2018 1:39:48 GMT
Post by Bailey on Sept 23, 2018 1:39:48 GMT
In addition to my previous post, I have found this post, also from michelb, discussing the same situation and solution.
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Sept 23, 2018 6:46:53 GMT
Post by BuckSkin on Sept 23, 2018 6:46:53 GMT
I did a search and could not find any threads on this. Just purchased a new PC. Have installed PE 2018 (same as old PC). BUT, the data disk on my new PC is D: drive rather than C: drive which is totally going to screw up the Organiser. How do I proceed?? Thank you in advance. Before you get in too deep, go into disk management; not sure on Windows 10, but on anything else you right-click "Computer" in the start menu and choose "Manage" in the menu that appears. In Disk Management, you can change drive letters to anything that isn't already in use. You may have to find out what the C drive is, rename C to something else, then rename D to C. The web is full of instructions on how to do this. Make note of exactly everything you did so you can backtrack if something else then goes haywire; also, create a restore point before you begin, so in a worse case scenario you can revert back to where you started. This all sounds technical, but it is just follow the steps; but, WATCH those steps and don't hold it against me if something goes South. Also, you can USB connect your old hard-drive to the new machine and access ALL of it's contents to do with as you please; you need either a HDD converter of a HDD "dock" or "enclosure" to do this. I recommend a two or more bay dock where you can poke the HDDs in the compartments just like putting bread in the toaster, all plug-n-play. |
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Sept 23, 2018 7:17:57 GMT
Post by Bailey on Sept 23, 2018 7:17:57 GMT
Re-labeling the system's drive to something else is risky unless you really know what you are doing. There could be serious implications later on, especially when installing other new software.
This is a post about where someone renamed C: to E: and had severe problems afterwards.
If you are or know someone familiar with SQL, then the solution is a 5 minutes edit of a data record in a table in PSE's database file as described by michelb in the 2 links I posted. That is the solution I would use and recommend.
If you are not familiar with SQL, hopefully michelb or someone else can suggest a solution which doesn't involve changing system "stuff".
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Sept 23, 2018 8:54:02 GMT
Post by michelb on Sept 23, 2018 8:54:02 GMT
Re-labeling the system's drive to something else is risky unless you really know what you are doing. There could be serious implications later on, especially when installing other new software.
This is a post about where someone renamed C: to E: and had severe problems afterwards. If you are or know someone familiar with SQL, then the solution is a 5 minutes edit of a data record in a table in PSE's database file as described by michelb in the 2 links I posted. That is the solution I would use and recommend. If you are not familiar with SQL, hopefully michelb or someone else can suggest a solution which doesn't involve changing system "stuff". I am sure you agree that even if you are familar with SQL, you have to work on a catalog folder copy to be safe. You don't change any system "stuff" but you have to read "system stuff" to know the internal serial numbers assigned by Windows to both drives. (DOS command Vol:) Then you have to translate from hexa to decimal.
The sqlite edit works when: - the folder tree structure is strictly identical in both drives - you have not already imported files or changed some in the destination drive - There is no confusing trap like cloned drives with the same internal number.
You get excellent info about those traps from the help file of the psedbtool app by John R Ellis. For instance, it states that Windows has a command to change the internal volume serial number.
My advice is to take the time to use the recommended backup and restore method. Some have sometimes problems to complete the backup. Then, there may be different ways to migrate to a new drive. Depends on the particular situations which prevents the backup.
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HappyScot
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Sept 23, 2018 10:03:55 GMT
Post by HappyScot on Sept 23, 2018 10:03:55 GMT
Here is where I'm at now!
Did a full backup of my catalog on the old machine.
Started a restore on new machine with 'restore original file structure'.
old machine file path was:
C:\Users\Joan-PC\Pictures\Canon\170519\IMG01, IMG02 etc
C:\Users\Joan-PC\Pictures\Nikon\160312\NIK01, Nik02, NIK03 etc
New machine file path is now:
D:\joan-\Pictures\Users\Joan-Pc\Pictures\Canon\170519\IMG01, IMG02 etc
Which is a bit of a mouthful. I had to tick the 'restore old file structure because I would have had duplicate date files within the 'Canon' and 'Nikon' folders.
SO, my question is now:
How can I 'get rid of' the '\Users\Joan-Pc\Pictures' bit so that all my photos are in:
D:\Joan-\Pictures\and then Nikon or Canon etc.
Do I just manually, over time, move my photos to my preferred location and then do reconnects?
or is there another way???
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Sept 23, 2018 11:01:50 GMT
Post by michelb on Sept 23, 2018 11:01:50 GMT
I think you would not have got duplicate folders. If you don't keep the original structure, you keep what is meaningful in the folders tree, but the useless subfolders are ignored to get a simpler tree.
You may find hard to believe that you only have to display the folder tree in the left folders panel in tree view, then click on the "Joan-PC" folder, and drag it to the D: master folder.
Since you have a very recent backup, it's not a big risk. Just be patient and wait for the folders in the Explorer are moved entirely. Also remember that the drag and drop feature for a whole folder tree does not require any reconnection. You can drag and drop your whole image folder tree from C: to another drive. The catalog is updated. If you copy the catalog to the destination drive, then you have only to open the organizer from that catalog with a double click on the 'catalog.pse16db' file. No reconnection needed. That idea of moving from the organizer seems risky, especially for Lightroom users who always recommend to move from your OS, then reconnect from Lightroom. So, you'll probably do a full backup anyway and the process will not be faster as a whole.
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Sept 24, 2018 1:00:33 GMT
Post by Bailey on Sept 24, 2018 1:00:33 GMT
.... I am sure you agree that even if you are familar with SQL, you have to work on a catalog folder copy to be safe. ... Yes michelb, I agree  I am pretty sure that anyone familiar with SQL and/or database administration would make changes such as this on copies of database tables or entire databases so that changes can be rolled back if they do not have the desired affect. |
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HappyScot
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Sept 24, 2018 8:20:16 GMT
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Post by HappyScot on Sept 24, 2018 8:20:16 GMT
Thank you so much. This is turning into quite a long exercise! Will try that today.
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HappyScot
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Sept 24, 2018 15:09:43 GMT
Post by HappyScot on Sept 24, 2018 15:09:43 GMT
Just to summarise what I did in case anyone else wants to do this.
My photos on the old PC were in C:\Pictures\............. New PC I wanted them to be in D:\Pictures.
1. I restored my catalog on to my new PC and pointed to D:\Pictures.
2. I ticked the box 'keep old file structure'.
3. What I ended up with was a file structure D:\Pictures\users\oldpcname\Pictures................
4. I moved the folders within that using File Explorer to D:\Pictures.Deleted the old file path.
5. All was well but of course the Organiser was full of disconnected images - 22000+ in total.
6. I tried to get Organiser to 'reconnect missing files'. It threw a hissy fit and stopped working. Multiple times.
7. I manually reconnected 20,000+ images by clicking on 1 image within a folder and the Organiser fortunately reconnected that image and all the others in the folder.
8. I worked my way through all my base folders. This took me about 4-5 hours to do. The Organiser is a bit flaky.
9. I then tried to run the 'reconnect all files' on the remaining odds and sods of 2000+ images. It threw another hissy fit and stopped working.
10. I then manually reconnected the remaining images.
11. Backed up the Organiser, again.
12. Backed up the full system, again.
13. Job Done! The catalogue is in a folder on D:\Pictures with the same name as the catalogue.
I do really hope I don't have to do this again in the near future.
Thanks everyone for your help.
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