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Post by Tpgettys on Oct 3, 2018 4:26:46 GMT
OK, I got it to work, thanks for the clarification! This retro/steampunk jukebox really works!
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Post by Bailey on Oct 4, 2018 11:24:40 GMT
After  Before  I've created a technique for detail enhancement in PSE that's quick, and fairly simple. It involves the surface blur filter used in a counterintuitive way. A blur filter to sharpen. Here goes. 1. 0pen image. 2. Duplicate background. 3. Layer 1 blend mode:Vivid Light Invert image: command I Filter>blur>surface blur radius:30 threshold: 30 4. Merge visible: Shift, alt/option, command/control -E 5. Layer 2 blend mode: Overlay 6. Delete Layer 1 7. Change opacity as desired. 8. Flatten If anyone tries this, I'd love to see what you think. Joe For anyone with Elements+ installed, you can record a macro to execute these steps automatically on future images. Thank you drjoerogers for posting this technique. It seems to work well  |
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Post by Bailey on Oct 5, 2018 6:01:54 GMT
Hi michelb, Yes, that works. I also believe any kind of blur will also work. I think the process replicates what was originally the 'unsharp mask' in the darkroom, by applying a blurred negative over the positive: I am not sure you can use any kind of blurring, but I might be wrong. The reason I suspect you might not be able to use any blurring is because as a quick and simple test I applied a surface blur to a layer with the settings in the OP. Then I applied a Guassian Blur to the same original unedited layer and the Gaussian blurred layer and the Surface blurred layer look totally different. No matter what Guassian blur settings I tried, I could not replicate the look of the Surface Blurred layer. |
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Post by michelb on Oct 5, 2018 6:50:00 GMT
Hi michelb, Yes, that works. I also believe any kind of blur will also work. I think the process replicates what was originally the 'unsharp mask' in the darkroom, by applying a blurred negative over the positive: I am not sure you can use any kind of blurring, but I might be wrong. The reason I suspect you might not be able to use any blurring is because as a quick and simple test I applied a surface blur to a layer with the settings in the OP. Then I applied a Guassian Blur to the same original unedited layer and the Gaussian blurred layer and the Surface blurred layer look totally different. No matter what Guassian blur settings I tried, I could not replicate the look of the Surface Blurred layer. Before posting I did a control test with gaussian blur. That was to confirm the sharpening effect on edges produced by simulating the darkroom unsharp mask. I remember discussions about the same topic years ago and also about the surface blur (not sure about that). What is true is that the surface blur will give different visual effects, not only edge sharpening. - visually, the result with the surface blur is nearer to the effect you can achieve with frequency separation, the effect is not only on edges.
- the 'unsharp mask' with gaussian blur is nearer to the highpass sharpening method, since both have a gaussian effect on edges. So, it may be interesting to test various methods depending on the contents of the image. I think frequency separation may be useful on other subjects than portraits.
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Post by BuckSkin on Oct 5, 2018 14:26:57 GMT
5. Layer 2 blend mode: Overlay I see that in the Hollywood instructions it states to use Soft Light instead of Overlay. All other factors being the same, I would expect that Soft Light would provide the sharper image; am I right ? I would also expect that Hard Light would be even sharper, or should I say a more intense sharpening. |
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Post by Sepiana on Oct 5, 2018 15:52:41 GMT
I see that in the Hollywood instructions it states to use Soft Light instead of Overlay. All other factors being the same, I would expect that Soft Light would provide the sharper image; am I right ?
In a nutshell, . . .
"The effect of both is essentially the same, with the difference being that the Overlay blend mode creates a somewhat stronger effect than the Soft Light blend mode."
Source: Overlay versus Soft Light
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Post by Sepiana on Oct 6, 2018 14:35:21 GMT
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Post by Tpgettys on Oct 6, 2018 18:30:37 GMT
Thanks for sharing your script Bailey! They sure are handy. |
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Post by Bailey on Oct 7, 2018 0:47:35 GMT
Thanks for sharing your script Bailey ! They sure are handy.
No problem Tpgettys
I am now starting to build my own library of scripts. I have posted these scripts on 2 other web sites as well and am getting encouraging feedback.
I am not a Photoshop user so I can't create actions. But now that I have a copy of the Photoshop CS6 Javascript Reference Guide I much prefer to write scripts because they give me much, much more power and flexibility in what I can do and interactivity with the user than actions do.
Hopefully this thread will now start a trend that could be useful to members and visitors. Whenever a thread similar to this pops up, hopefully Sepiana or other Photoshop users can create an action for the tutorial and I or other members can create a script for it. Visitors can then use whichever they prefer to suit their needs.
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Post by Sydney on Oct 7, 2018 2:22:26 GMT
Bailey, just curious, what are you using to do your scripting? Kind of looks like Visual Basic.
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Post by Bailey on Oct 7, 2018 4:55:55 GMT
G'day Sydney
I am using Javascript.
On Windows you can also use VB Script. For Mac you can use AppleScript. Scripts written in Javascript will run on both Windows PC's and Mac's.
You can tell if a script is Javascript or VB Script by subtle differences in language syntax. For example, in Javascript variables are declared by the var command. In VB Script they are declared by the DIM command. Also, single line remarks in Javascript start with //. In VB Script they start with REM
hth
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Post by Sydney on Oct 7, 2018 7:25:58 GMT
G'day Sydney
I am using Javascript.
On Windows you can also use VB Script. For Mac you can use AppleScript. Scripts written in Javascript will run on both Windows PC's and Mac's.
You can tell if a script is Javascript or VB Script by subtle differences in language syntax. For example, in Javascript variables are declared by the var command. In VB Script they are declared by the DIM command. Also, single line remarks in Javascript start with //. In VB Script they start with REM
hth
Thanks Bailey, I might just have a go with some scripting as I have done quite a bit of VB coding (in years past) and, from what others have told me, Javascript isn't hard to learn. Were you editing from inside Elements +? |
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Post by Bailey on Oct 7, 2018 23:30:03 GMT
Thanks Bailey, I might just have a go with some scripting as I have done quite a bit of VB coding (in years past) and, from what others have told me, Javascript isn't hard to learn. Were you editing from inside Elements +? No problem Sydney No, you don't do any editing from actually inside Elements+. I use the Netbeans IDE (Integrated Development Environment), which is what I used in my web programming/development days. But Netbeans is way,way overkill for user scripting for PSE. Javascript and VB Script files are just plain text files. You can edit them in any text editor. Notepad (in Windows) is perfectly ok. If you would like a text editor with a few more features and bells and whistles, the free Notepad++ text editor might be worth considering. If you need any help with your scripting, feel free to post your query in an appropriate thread and I will be happy to try to help. If it's a Javascript query, I should be able to help. If it's regarding VB Script, I might or might not be able to. My experience with VB Script is limited.
I saw elsewhere you have Elements XXL. It should have the ability to at least run Javascript or VB Script files, if not record macros as well, like Elements+ does.
hth
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