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Post by BuckSkin on Jun 4, 2015 18:22:57 GMT
dicklaxt, are you able to run Windows-only programs on Linux ? Me being quite ignorant about the ins and outs of such things is all that has kept me from trying Linux. One thing is for certain, Windows is the Chevrolet of the computer world; no matter if one absolutely despises and abhors anything GM, everyone has to admit that many aftermarket goodies are easily available for Chevrolets when not quite so for any other make.  |
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Post by dicklaxt on Jun 4, 2015 22:00:30 GMT
BuckSkin like I mentioned, I am stumbling my way around with not much help because I don't understand a lot of the instructions by Linux folks and their Forums. This is what I did, I made a flash drive and did the necessary things to be able to get into the Bios and install Linux overwriting Windows 8 software in total. Windows does not exist on this computer. The first thing I did was download Google Chrome(Firefox is Linux default search engine) and this download had all my tabs I had set up previously on GC so it was an easy changeover. I do most of my playing on GC while I spend time finding my way around in Linux as and when I can find time.
BTW Linux does not recognmize Lightroom or Photoshop,Linux uses Gimp for photo editing and is very similiar to elements. I do have both LR and PSE loaded on my wife's computer which is Win 8 so I stay in touch.In the future I may Network our computers together so I can access that software when needed from my location across the room.
I need to upgrade her computer to Win 10 some early morning while she is still sleeping late which is most every day.
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Post by dicklaxt on Jun 6, 2015 18:37:50 GMT
The usual advice is to wait a bit before updating to a recently released OS (about one year) just to see how it goes. Users of Windows 7 and Windows 8/8.1 are entitled to upgrade to Windows 10 free of charge provided they do it within one year from the release date (July 29). If you have more than one computer, you could upgrade just one computer and use it as a guinea pig to test the waters. This is what I am planning to do.
Here is some information you may want to check.
Microsoft explains what you’ll lose by upgrading to Windows 10
Sepiana can you explain this. The beginning of the attached link say's Home User's should reserve their upgrade but the article later says the download will be done automatically,,,so do you still need to reserve?  dick |
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Post by Sepiana on Jun 6, 2015 19:24:26 GMT
Sepiana can you explain this. The beginning of the attached link say's Home User's should reserve their upgrade but the article later says the download will be done automatically,,,so do you still need to reserve? I believe this does not apply to upgrading from Windows 7 and 8/8.1 to Windows 10. This refers to the Automatic Updates feature. Those updates Microsoft release on a regular basis for security reasons, to fix bugs, etc. The way it stands now (in all editions of Windows 7 and Windows 8/8.1), you can customize how and when you want these updates downloaded/installed. This won't be available in the Home edition of Windows 10. It will be available only in the other editions. |
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Post by Squirrel2014 on Jun 6, 2015 19:39:12 GMT
Are these the phrases you are referring to? They both refer to updates
and not the OS
"...including making updates automatic for Windows 10 Home users."
"Updates will instead be downloaded and installed automatically as soon as they're available"
Installing updates automatically may have a significant impact on me. I only use my laptop (8.1) when I'm out/away from home so I don't want updates to start when I'm at another site, accessing internet, particularly if on a low speed internet connection, or need to conserve battery and can't plug in power. There will be no way to postpone an update!
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Post by Sepiana on Jun 6, 2015 19:53:50 GMT
Installing updates automatically may have a significant impact on me. I only use my laptop (8.1) when I'm out/away from home so I don't want updates to start when I'm at another site, accessing internet, particularly if on a low speed internet connection, or need to conserve battery and can't plug in power. There will be no way to postpone an update! It all depends on which edition of Windows 10 you upgrade to. If you still want to be able to customize the automatic updates, you will need to upgrade not to Windows 10 Home but to Windows 10 Professional or Enterprise. |
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Post by Squirrel2014 on Jun 6, 2015 20:01:55 GMT
Installing updates automatically may have a significant impact on me. I only use my laptop (8.1) when I'm out/away from home so I don't want updates to start when I'm at another site, accessing internet, particularly if on a low speed internet connection, or need to conserve battery and can't plug in power. There will be no way to postpone an update! It all depends on which edition of Windows 10 you upgrade to. If you still want to be able to customize the automatic updates, you will need to upgrade not to Windows 10 Home but to Windows 10 Professional or Enterprise. Yes, exactly, Sepiana! I'm not wanting to upgrade to Pro or Enterprise. I'll just have to find ways to get around it, if possible. Ideally, I will have thought to check for updates before I go out but that's potentially not going to happen (very poor memory) I think it's a shame that they're doing this. People with Windows OS on devices, such as laptops, netbooks, tablets, phones could all potentially have an issue with this. Until Windows 10 is downloaded and active in general use for a while, we won't know if this is likely to be a problem, of course. Time will tell ... |
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Post by dicklaxt on Jun 6, 2015 20:12:57 GMT
Okay that kinda makes sense ,I think? So do we reserve now or not? I found a Web page giving directions of what to do.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2015 8:55:35 GMT
Since the upgrade to Win10 is free and will be so for a year, the invitation to reserve your upgrade is meaningless from our perspective. Are MS going to run out of free versions? From their point of view I guess it gives a measure of interest and will entice a good many people to upgrade who normally wouldn't. If you have many machines that you want to upgrade you only need to download one copy and this can be applied to any valid machine that meets the requirements. I've registered one machine just to see what the process is. Needless to say its not my main machine  The latest version of Win10 that I have seems more buggy than the previous releases. While they didn't have some features implement at least for me those that were worked OK. Biggest problem I'm having with 10030 is that the Start button doesn't always work. Connecting to a Wifi network was also problematical. Colin |
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Post by Squirrel2014 on Jun 7, 2015 9:04:09 GMT
Thanks for keeping us up-to-date on this, Colin
I, for one, won't be upgrading to Win 10 until towards the end of the free period. I'd rather others sort out the bugs that will inevitably be apparent soon after it's in general use. Then, when we know what we are letting ourselves in for, I'll consider downloading.
By the way, will we be able to download Win 10 and make a copy, rather than install first, do you know? You sort of implied this in your post or have I read it wrongly?
Many thanks
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Post by muymalestado on Jun 7, 2015 12:05:00 GMT
A couple of retired laptops here now run Linux which did the headline things as touted in the geek press. Installed easily. Runs quickly and smoothly. Reasonable for email. BUT, it isn't Windows so to get Adobe product, or MS-Office functionality it seems lots of accustomed uses, document management, etc. have to be abandoned or unacceptably changed, or mimicked by adding specialised Linux systems.
My opinion, of course.
My guess is we'll turn Win7 Auto-Update to Manual, or just Off, and wait for six months to attempt Win10.
Now. If Google/Android was to work up a wholly compatible windowing system ........
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Post by dean08 on Jun 7, 2015 15:35:52 GMT
I reserved my copy on windows 7 laptop and it checked the computer and told me what might not work correctly or at all. to me this is good and give me the option to download or not. Dean |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2015 15:59:56 GMT
I'm not exactly sure about the delivery policy of the Win10 upgrade but reading between the lines MS says that if you register for the upgrade it will be downloaded but you can defer installing it. In which case I would think that its possible you can turn this upgrade into a bootable disk but may have to jump through a few hoops to do so. I would also expect and hope that MS makes the ISO file directly available for download rather than registering for it through the invite in your systray. In which case making a bootable disk is easier.
They've also said that you can install the upgrade on as many machines as you like providing they all have a genuine copy of Win7/Win8 on them, so again I suspect there will be a way to get or make a disk.
The upgrade paths are below but a word of caution - if you upgrade to the Windows 10 Home versions then future updates issued by MS will be installed automatically. Currently you can set your PC to install them or not - now you have no choice.
Windows 7*
Windows 7 Starter -> Windows 10 Home
Windows 7 Home Basic -> Windows 10 Home
Windows 7 Home Premium -> Windows 10 Home
Windows 7 Professional -> Windows 10 Pro
Windows 7 Ultimate -> Windows 10 Pro
Windows 8**
Windows Phone 8.1 -> Windows 10 Mobile
Windows 8.1 -> Windows 10 Home
Windows 8.1 Pro -> Windows 10 Pro
Windows 8.1 Pro for Students -> Windows 10 Pro
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Post by dicklaxt on Jun 7, 2015 16:55:25 GMT
I hope you folk's get all this figured out because you all lost me somewhere back about 7 1/2 miles ago.   Let me ask this ,,,,,What is wrong with downloading and installing Win10 early and going thru all the debugging as it occurs,this probably would give me a leg up on getting started with Win10 rather than wait and all the knowledge be delayed. I'm a home user and really just play and do not rely on this box of rocks for anything other than my toys so I can live with oops and chit's. dick |
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