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Post by Bailey on Jun 18, 2019 10:15:12 GMT
Looking at this image Bailey I can just imagine smugglers coming ashore to hide their contraband in a cave in that rocky outcrop. I like the way you think BillieJean I was thinking along the same line when I finished editing it. But since then, the moon lit version messes with my eyes and body clock My eyes feel heavy and sleepy very quickly when looking at it If I put them together side by side it messes with my brain and eyes even more!!!
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Post by michelb on Jun 18, 2019 16:01:50 GMT
The present challenge for camera raw is not reserved to Elements users, so it's good to have competitors with Lightroom or Photoshop or even similar converters. However, Elements users may feel they miss a number of features of LR/PS. I don't think that a very important improvement in the last ACR version has been brought enough to Elements users attention. It's the number of available 'profiles' in both color and black and white conversion. For instance, in B&W you get 12 presets, plus filters simulating colored filters from green, yellow, orange, red or blue. The number of possible effects is impressive and when you click on 'close', you still have the usual sliders to fine tune the presets. For color, you also have many including 'camera matching' for instance the simulation of all the silver Fuji film rolls.
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Post by Bailey on Jun 18, 2019 21:42:16 GMT
... However, Elements users may feel they miss a number of features of LR/PS. ... I am using PSE14 and the ACR that comes with it. Even in v14 I can still edit individual rgb channel data to a large extent. 99.9% of all my post processing is done in ACR and PSE14. For B&W conversions I use Elements+ which provides much more power and options for the conversion. I also use E+ sometimes to split an image into the individual channels for editing and then recombine them. But for this particular challenge I used just ACR & PSE14 as described in the posts.
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Post by hmca on Jun 19, 2019 11:25:25 GMT
OK....so we've strayed from our usual requirement to keep posts in this thread limited to submissions and comments related to those submissions. Let's get back on track. I have created a poll and comment thread to discuss the challenge.
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Post by michelb on Jun 19, 2019 19:26:11 GMT
Sorry for straying away from the the challenge... Here is a new attempt. One thing which is very important for me is to take the time to appraise the raw image and to determine both what may be wrong and what may be promising for a creative approach. First, it's important to show the advantage of shooting raw. In my first attempt, I tried to show that it's possible to get a lot of flexibility to stretch tones in B&W without posterization using 16 bits output. Today, I wondered if there is also an advantage for vivid color interpretation. The first time I opened the DNG I did not pay much attention to the original crop. I restored it (it's non-destructive) and chose my own crop.
Then there is a question about two already discussed issues: the people on the beach and the overexposed cliffs. To take advantage of the features of the ACR in PSE2019, I tried to get a pleasing result in ACR alone. I chose the 'Landscape' profile. Then I tried to compensate the lack of details in both shadows and highlights by playing with nearly all sliders. The idea was to get a very vivid but still realistic color image.
The result
Was the original raw format an advantage for that color variation? I did a comparison test which showed that the vivid result requires using Adobe RGB instead of sRGB. Both my display and my printer can take advantage of aRGB and the difference is visible in saturation.
See the out of gamut parts:
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Post by Peterj on Jun 20, 2019 0:12:56 GMT
On1 for all processing: Transform, Level, crop
tone color in sky dynamic contrast on stone blur on water
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Post by hmca on Jun 20, 2019 1:56:07 GMT
I like the muted colors in your image Peterj.
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Post by whippet on Jun 20, 2019 9:10:17 GMT
ON1 and PSE.
Ended with - Craquelure, stylize, glowing edges.
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Post by Lillias on Jun 22, 2019 11:42:52 GMT
Thought I'd try for a kind of sundowner look...so used 2 Gradient fill layers. The first one black to transparent on a linear fill with reduced opacity and the second one yellow/orange to green on a radial gradient.
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Post by hmca on Jun 22, 2019 15:52:47 GMT
This challenge runs for one more week so additional edits are welcome.
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Post by pete61 on Jun 28, 2019 16:02:34 GMT
Thought I would give it a try using the new Topaz Adjust AI after straightening and cropping to 16 x 9 to remove clutter at the bottom of the frame. Given the extreme range of light and dark tones and the obvious low sun I put Adjust AI into its HDR Style mode. Then warmed the WB temperature in the Color section and adjusted sliders in the Brightness, Clarity and Detail sections to suit. Afterward used the Magic Eraser in On1 2019.5 to remove distractions, including all people except for the photographer (I would never disturb another photographer at work! . i.ibb.co/gypw6p1/Durdle-Door1-adjustrz.jpg
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Post by hmca on Jun 28, 2019 17:22:21 GMT
This is the last day for this challenge and I was hoping that possibly we'd get a few more entries, thanks pete61! I got the free upgrade from Topaz for Adjust AI but have yet to try it. You have just given me the nudge I needed. Tomorrow the person who submitted this RAW file will be choosing the three top edits. We will also have a new Creative Effects challenge posted. So there's still time for anyone who would like to try their editing skills with this image. The dng can be downloaded from the link in the introductory post on the first page of this thread.
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Post by Fauxtoto on Jun 28, 2019 20:03:35 GMT
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Post by tonyw on Jun 30, 2019 0:10:12 GMT
First off a big thank you to Helen for organizing this RAW Challenge and inviting me to find a suitable RAW image. It was fun seeing all the various interpretations. About the Photo: Durdle Door Arch is a World Heritage Site along the Dorset coast in England - also known as the Jurassic Coast - a great spot for fossil hunters. The photo was taken on October 29th 2013 in the early afternoon and at that time of the year at that latitude the sun is quite low in the sky - hence the shadow on the sea, the arch in shade and the chalk cliffs in sun. As I recall I exposed for the sea shadow and the result was real extremes of brightness so a good case where shooting raw gives the potential to recover details in both the highlights and shadows that would probably not have been possible if I'd been shooting jpeg. As for my favourite edits: Very hard to choose as there were many good edits - all well done. My first choice has to go to ones that recovered the detail in the shadows and highlights - as that's what my eyes saw (eyes + brain are better than cameras in this respect). I couldn't decide between michelb and Bailey so we'll call it a tie. Just a comment - I have a preference for leaving the people on the beach - there are always people on that beach at least until the tide comes in or a storm comes up. Another favourite is the black and white from fotofrank. I like the crop that emphasises the arch and turns it into a sea monster as well as the stormy sea - overall creates an ominous effect which is appropriate for this stretch of coast that regularly disappears into the sea.. And last but not least is Peter-J - a similar crop that could well be a dinosaur and fossils of same have been found in the area. I like the way the "animal" is looking at the rock out at sea. Significant as that rock at sea is part of the same geological formation as the arch and may well have been part of another arch many years ago. And if you want to see how I edited the image originally in Lightroom here it is: Looking forward to the next RAW challenge Tony
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Post by Bailey on Jun 30, 2019 0:50:03 GMT
Hi Tony, Thank you very much for submitting a raw image to enable this challenge to continue and to Helen for again organizing and hosting it. This is my favourite challenge on this forum . I also submitted a raw image for this challenge awhile ago, which Helen generously used, and it was both fun to see how members interpreted/processed it and very challenging to choose a few favourites from the submissions. Thank you to all who participated in this current challenge. Once again it was fun and interesting for me to see how differently members interpreted and chose to post process your image. And thank you Tony for including one of my submissions in your favourites. Hopefully this challenge will continue on from here .
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