JimD
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Post by JimD on Jun 27, 2015 9:38:06 GMT
I use PSE8 and am thinking about updating to a newer version, like PSE10, 11, or 12 probably. I can buy these versions new on eBay, etc. for about half the price of PSE13. and don't really need to have the "latest and greatest" Elements version, unless 13 has a whole lot of nifty new creative and time-saving functions and is really worth paying up for, for a casual user like me.
1. I'm not very tech-savvy so which of those 3 would be fairly similar to 8 but still have most of the latest functions (like layer mask button, out-of-bounds action in assisted edit, etc.) and not have too tough of a learning curve? Or are they all about equal in that respect?
2. If or when I buy a newer version will I uninstall 8 first or just leave PSE8 on my PC and let the new one automatically download over it, or is it a more complicated procedure?
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Post by Sydney on Jun 27, 2015 10:05:54 GMT
JimD,
I have only ever had PSE13 so can't address your first question, however with regard to your second I am 99.9% sure that you can have multiple versions installed on your pc without any issues. Perhaps another forum member could either confirm this or correct me if I am wrong.
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Post by dicklaxt on Jun 27, 2015 10:38:09 GMT
I went from PSE7 to PSE11 and the learning curve was smooth as silk and I'm really a dummy LOL,,,,,,,go for it ........ Adobe still carries many tutorials on/for older versions.
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Post by Squirrel2014 on Jun 27, 2015 11:12:42 GMT
I've only had v11 and v12 so I can't comment on which version to get. There are some features in v11 but not in v12 and, obviously, visa versa. However, there are addons that can help towards filling the gaps, it seems, or work-arounds. Version 13 is slightly different (? 32-bit instead of 16?) which seems to have different implications but, at the moment, I can't remember what.  However, I can confirm you can install multiple versions on a machine or device. For example, I have v11 AND v12 installed (usually, but not currently, since a recent reformat of PC) Also, you can (legally) install the same version/CD onto two separate machines/devices using the same Product Key. There was some detailed discussion on EV a while ago regarding this issue so you can be assured that a copy on your PC and again on your laptop, for instance, using same Product Key, is absolutely legal and above board, being within Adobe's T&Cs I hope this goes towards a better knowledge re what to get. Others will be along and able to offer a lot more information. |
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Post by twoaussies on Jun 27, 2015 12:06:41 GMT
I have used PSE since 2; now use PSE5.0 predominantly. The reason I upgrade is that many of the plug ins, i.e. Topaz, only work on the newer versions; also Panos is now making actions for PSE 11 and newer. Even if you dont use PSE 12 or 13 consider them for the actions. BTW I have 5.0, 8.0 and 11 on the same computer, no worries.
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Post by Sepiana on Jun 27, 2015 15:58:23 GMT
Hi Jim,
I believe it is difficult to advise someone which version of Elements to get because it all depends on one’s interests and needs and budgetary constraints. However, I will try.
Each version of Elements is an independent one. You can have multiple versions installed on the same computer. (I have Elements 7, 10, 11, 12, and 13 all living in harmony on the same computer.)
Be careful when buying a copy of Elements from an individual (on eBay or elsewhere). Adobe has procedures in place to make sure you don’t go over the two-machine installation limit. If you are purchasing a used copy of Elements, this means that you have to verify that the seller took the necessary steps to deactivate/sign-out his/her copy so that this program can be installed on someone else’s computer.
When transferring a copy of Elements to another person, there is an Adobe procedure that needs to be followed. You have to make sure the seller has taken care of it.
Adobe did quite an overhaul of Elements starting with version 11. One change which caused an uproar was the one in the user interface – light colors instead of dark ones and the fact it cannot be adjusted (as it was possible in earlier versions).
Adobe has added many features to Elements but it has also removed some. Some can be placed back some cannot.
You also need to keep in mind that now Elements is a 64-bit application. It started with Elements 12 on a Mac and with Elements 13 on Windows. This means that many plug-ins (which are 32-bit only) cannot be installed in the 64-bit version of this program.
As a rule of thumb, actions written for Elements 7 will work in Elements 8 through 13. You should not have a problem here.
If you use third-party layer styles and actions, there is an advantage in getting Elements 11 and above. There is no need to install these files in the appropriate folders; you just load them when the need arises.
And here is some information you may want to check. Hopefully this will help you make an informed decision.
Feature Comparison Among Photoshop Elements Versions Beginning with Version 10 What features from previous versions are not available in Adobe Photoshop Elements 12? Transfer an Adobe product license Elements 13 free 30-day trial (fully functional)
As a side note . . .
Adobe should be releasing Elements 14 in mid-September. This means that there will be sales on Elements 13; prices will be falling down. The retailers have to get rid of their stock to make space for the new version. Also, if you buy Elements around the time when the new version is released, you may be eligible for a complimentary upgrade (free of charge).
Do I qualify for a free upgrade?
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Post by JimD on Jun 27, 2015 23:04:43 GMT
Thank you all for your input and tips. Sepiana, thank you for the links also. I will check them out as soon as I get time. The one I currently am considering says it's brand new and factory sealed, but the label in the photo says it's "for bundling...not to be sold separately"  so is it legal for me to buy that one? It has both PSE12 and Premiere Elements12. I will attach a photo of the box if I can figure out how.  ![]() ![]()  |
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Post by Major Major on Jun 27, 2015 23:38:10 GMT
Jim -
This is an OEM copy. For one thing, it won't qualify for any support from Adobe. And it probably won't qualify you for any future upgrade you may wish to do.
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JimD
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Post by JimD on Jun 27, 2015 23:42:36 GMT
What does OEM mean, Major - orig. manufacturer? So what designation(s) should I look for on the packaging to ensure Adobe support, etc.?
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Post by Major Major on Jun 28, 2015 0:05:39 GMT
OEM means Original Equipment Manufacturer. It's the designation for software that comes bundled with a computer purchase because of a deal between the computer maker and software company. But the software comes with some gotchas. As long as you don't see OEM on the package you should be okay.
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Post by JimD on Jun 28, 2015 0:21:32 GMT
Ok, thanks.
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Post by JimD on Jul 6, 2015 7:19:49 GMT
OEM means Original Equipment Manufacturer. It's the designation for software that comes bundled with a computer purchase because of a deal between the computer maker and software company. But the software comes with some gotchas. As long as you don't see OEM on the package you should be okay. How about buying PSE 13 versions from Costco that have "Special Edition - print directly to Costco 1 hour photo" on the box? Is that similar to OEM/"bundled" on the packages, or no big deal as far as restrictions with Adobe? (I asked this in another thread, but have received no answer so far). |
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Post by Sepiana on Jul 6, 2015 7:42:41 GMT
How about buying PSE 13 versions from Costco that have "Special Edition - print directly to Costco 1 hour photo" on the box? Is that similar to OEM/"bundled" on the packages, or no big deal as far as restrictions with Adobe? (I asked this in another thread, but have received no answer so far).
I believe the Special Edition is an Elements version which Adobe creates specially for Costco. In this version the option to upload your photos to Costco for printing is included. This option is not available in the "regular" versions sold by Adobe or other online/local retailers. From a technical point of view, there is no difference. It is the same version you get anywhere else.
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Post by JimD on Jul 6, 2015 7:53:31 GMT
Thanks again, Sepiana.  |
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Post by Sepiana on Jul 6, 2015 7:56:23 GMT
Jim, you are welcome again! |
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so is it legal for me to buy that one? It has both PSE12 and Premiere Elements12.
