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Post by Inspeqtor on Feb 16, 2022 14:26:05 GMT
What wonderful photos Inspeqtor . I am sure you will have many happy hours looking and sorting through them. Thank you for sharing them with us. BillieJean, I was working on the next set of pictures when you posted the above. I am very happy you are also enjoying these photos! You are very welcome!!
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Post by BuckSkin on Feb 16, 2022 15:36:00 GMT
I don't know enough about glass negatives to know how he managed it; in the last group on page one, Photo #10 and #12 are the same photo except flipped 180°
I believe #12 is the correct orientation.
The big overhead beam is a gantry crane.
Those three big machines against the wall are steam engines. Unless they have shafts out the other end, protruding through the wall, and are thus driving something on that side, I believe them to be driving generators. They are oriented wrong to be driving a line shaft, unless the room we see is actually the end of a long building and not a side.
I have no idea what the machine nearest the lady at the desk is. I can see the shaft of the center engine protruding through it; and, the only set of governors I see in the room are on that shaft; which leads me to believe that all three engines are coupled together and the speed of all three in governed by that single set of governors.
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Post by Inspeqtor on Feb 16, 2022 23:05:21 GMT
I don't know enough about glass negatives to know how he managed it; in the last group on page one, Photo #10 and #12 are the same photo except flipped 180° I believe #12 is the correct orientation. The big overhead beam is a gantry crane. Those three big machines against the wall are steam engines. Unless they have shafts out the other end, protruding through the wall, and are thus driving something on that side, I believe them to be driving generators. They are oriented wrong to be driving a line shaft, unless the room we see is actually the end of a long building and not a side. I have no idea what the machine nearest the lady at the desk is. I can see the shaft of the center engine protruding through it; and, the only set of governors I see in the room are on that shaft; which leads me to believe that all three engines are coupled together and the speed of all three in governed by that single set of governors. Good catch BuckSkin! They are indeed the same photo but backwards. I must have done that when I scanned all the negatives back in 2007 when I bought my Epson Perfection 4990 Photo scanner. I found the original scan of each negative. I must have put that negative in the scanner two times one of the times putting it in backwards. That was all my wrong doing!! I looked at the photo "zooming in" hoping to read something on the crane, but it was too small and blurry to read to know which was correct. Which photo has a lady at a desk? Below each photo is a filename such as Purdue-36 - I do not need the full name after that. The 2nd part of the name is from my initial scan where I numbered them Scan #
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Post by BuckSkin on Feb 16, 2022 23:32:26 GMT
Which photo has a lady at a desk? The top photo here has a lady sitting at a desk, pen in hand, writing. I believe this photo to be the correct orientation, especially if the lady is right-handed; if you look closely, you can see that she is holding the pen in her right hand.
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Post by Inspeqtor on Feb 17, 2022 3:42:07 GMT
Which photo has a lady at a desk? The top photo here has a lady sitting at a desk, pen in hand, writing. I believe this photo to be the correct orientation, especially if the lady is right-handed; if you look closely, you can see that she is holding the pen in her right hand. Yes now I do see her! I see her puffy sleeve the best, she did not sit very still for the 1-2 minute exposure or whatever was needed at that time. I can't really tell except for another blur that she has a pen in her hand.
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Post by Inspeqtor on Feb 17, 2022 4:03:29 GMT
4 More World's Fair Pictures Worlds Fair 07 Scan 031-a by inspeqtor, on Flickr Worlds Fair 08 Scan 031-c by inspeqtor, on Flickr Worlds Fair 09 Scan 031-d by inspeqtor, on Flickr Worlds Fair 10 Scan 053-c by inspeqtor, on Flickr Here are what some of the original boxes looked like the Glass Negatives came in
There was one box that I have that had the information on the BOTTOM that I thought was interesting enough to share hereGlass Box Set 01 by inspeqtor, on Flickr Glass Box Set 02 by inspeqtor, on Flickr I am showing here the 2 different size negatives: 4 X 5 and 3 1/4 X 4 1/44 X 5 PLUS 3 1-4 X 4 1-4 by inspeqtor, on Flickr A Caution Paper placed in a couple of boxesCaution by inspeqtor, on Flickr Part of a Seed's Chemical paper (not all shown too long)
(Please do not mind the weights on the paper)Seeds Chemical by inspeqtor, on Flickr Here is a Glass Negative hand held by my wife Glass Negative Hand Held by inspeqtor, on Flickr Here is the image from that Glass NegativeBuilding 31 Scan 057-b by inspeqtor, on Flickr
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Post by BuckSkin on Feb 17, 2022 4:24:01 GMT
Thanks for sharing all this history.
I had never before heard of Honest Scrap Chewing Tobacco; and, believe me, I have seen a lot of different brands.
I am not 100% sure that it was glass negative photography; but, a friend and myself were at the final Mill Springs Battle reenactment in November 2019 and he paid some guy $35 to have his portrait made with one of those old-timey cameras where the photographer puts a hood over his head and then he had to go back several hours later to retrieve the developed picture.
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Post by cats4jan on Feb 17, 2022 11:09:45 GMT
That last photo shows how amazing the technology was. You have a little part of history right in your hand 😊
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Post by BuckSkin on Feb 17, 2022 16:36:30 GMT
Okay....., it just sunk in my head that these are "negatives"; so, these are not really the finished viewable product, right; prints for actual viewing would somehow be made from these, right ?
If that be the case, I am assuming one could take one of these negatives and make many many prints, right ?
And, if that be the case, we are looking at the "wrong" side of the negative she is holding in her hand as a print from it would be the reverse, right ?
I know it would be a tedious meticulous task; but, I bet there are a few rare individuals somewhere in this world who could repair some of the time-worn damage to these negatives where they have separated and "bubbled up" and peeled.
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Post by Inspeqtor on Feb 17, 2022 18:29:33 GMT
Okay....., it just sunk in my head that these are "negatives"; so, these are not really the finished viewable product, right; prints for actual viewing would somehow be made from these, right ? If that be the case, I am assuming one could take one of these negatives and make many many prints, right ? And, if that be the case, we are looking at the "wrong" side of the negative she is holding in her hand as a print from it would be the reverse, right ? I know it would be a tedious meticulous task; but, I bet there are a few rare individuals somewhere in this world who could repair some of the time-worn damage to these negatives where they have separated and "bubbled up" and peeled. Think of these glass negatives the same way you would think of 35mm B&W film, but just a LOT larger. I think to get an actual print back in Albert's day he would have laid the glass negative directly on top of the printing paper. This is what I used to scan all my negatives. My Epson Perfection 4990 Photo Scanner. This will do regular scanning of any paper letters or anything else with the top WHITE reflective screen in place. To do the Glass Negatives or modern 35mm film or slides I have to remove the WHITE reflective screen. The scanner LIGHT has to shine THRU the negative to do it's work. When I scanned the smaller 3 1/4 X 4 1/4 negatives I could get up to 5 negatives on the scanner at one time. When I scanned the larger 4 X 5 negatives I could only get 2 negatives which you have already seen.
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Post by BuckSkin on Feb 17, 2022 19:08:16 GMT
To do the Glass Negatives or modern 35mm film or slides I have to remove the WHITE reflective screen. The scanner LIGHT has to shine THRU the negative to do it's work. So, with your scanner, you can just lay the film or slide on the scanner bed and don't have to mess with special film or negative holders, right ?
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Post by Inspeqtor on Feb 17, 2022 19:51:57 GMT
So, with your scanner, you can just lay the film or slide on the scanner bed and don't have to mess with special film or negative holders, right ? For the Glass Negatives, being different sizes there are no templates or special holders that I am aware of. My scanner DID come with templates for 35mm processed film or 35mm slides. Yes for the glass negatives I DID just lay them on the bed of the scanner.
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Post by Inspeqtor on Feb 18, 2022 4:42:07 GMT
Here is another picture of the Pony Premo with the Tilt Frame. Tilt Camera by inspeqtor, on Flickr It has been a few years since I had the tripod out, I had forgotten just how short that thing is!! From floor to appx center of lens is only 38 inches!! Ya gotta lean down pretty low to look thru the back of camera with a black sheet over your head!
Here is the leather case that came with the camera.Leather Case 1 by inspeqtor, on Flickr Leather Case 2 by inspeqtor, on Flickr When I first got camera outfit 45+ years ago it took me a while to figure out how to open the camera. It is the circle on the top of the camera case, press on that to open the camera.
Here is something I had totally forgot I had. These filters are made by Burke & James Manufactures of Chicago, IL. This is called The Ideal Photo Optical Outfit consisting of 6 filters - Wide Angle Lens - Copying Lens - Ray Filter - Portrait Lens - Telephoto Lens - last one is Duplicator
He should have used the telephoto to get a good close up of the Moon!! (just kidding)
The Ray Filter has a mild yellow tint to it.Burke & James Filters by inspeqtor, on Flickr These filters do fit over the lens of my camera and hold quite nicely!
Here is a single picture of the Duplicator. Duplicator Lens by inspeqtor, on Flickr The duplicator is used to make a double exposure, so a person can appear twice in the image as if they were duplicated. Set the camera on a tripod with the duplicator in place, put a person in the image on the side with the duplicator, and take an image. Move the person to the other side within the image field of view, rotate the duplicator 180 degrees, and expose again. When developed, the person will be in the image twice. I think people will use photoshop to stack layers to do something similar.Here are the instructions that came with this set. Most all pictures from Flicker can be clicked on to see a larger image from the Flickr website, unless they are a tiny picture to begin with. Click on this if you want to try reading this. Burke & James Manual by inspeqtor, on Flickr The next few pictures are from my wife's Great Uncle Albert's home town, and my wife's home home town. I have been to this town many many times!
This home was the 2nd home my wife's grandparents Harry & Bertha lived in after her grandfather became dis-abled. I was fortunate enough to be in this home in our early married life. Albert was a brother to Harry. Oh the antiques that were in this home, including the Pony Premo camera after Albert died and his niece had the camera while living here. I LOVE the WOODEN sidewalk across the street from the house!!Albion 01 Scan 001-b by inspeqtor, on Flickr Some small children at a house. Sadly we do not know who the children are.Albion 02 Scan 020-a by inspeqtor, on Flickr This is a smoke house behind Harry & Bertha's house - not there today. Albion 03 Scan 030-a by inspeqtor, on Flickr The next 2 pictures is a tennis court that used to be behind Harry & Bertha's house not there today. Albion 05 Scan 027-d by inspeqtor, on Flickr Albion 06 Scan 031-b by inspeqtor, on Flickr This next house is again on Main Street East of the first house. This was actually the first house that Harry and Bertha lived in before the brick house. Harry farmed on this property farming the fields also having several milking cows. They moved when Harry became dis-abled.Albion 09 Scan 012-b by inspeqtor, on Flickr The white house many decades later was moved still on the same farm property but back maybe 1/8 to maybe 1/4 mile to a small pond area.
Milking barn behind the white house. Albion 10 Scan 012-a by inspeqtor, on Flickr This is the only picture I have that was taken inside Albert's house.Albion 11 Scan 006-b by inspeqtor, on Flickr
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Post by BuckSkin on Feb 18, 2022 6:30:22 GMT
I love that stove; I bet it is a coal stove. I don't see how people back in those days got away with having their stove so close to the wall and to other furniture; I see it all the time in old photos and movies. My wood stove is a good four feet away from anything and I still have sheet-metal reflectors between it and the walls and ceiling; without them, the walls would burst into flames when that baby is popping and cracking and whoof-whoof-whoofing at the dampers. A few nights ago, it got down to 7° American for three nights in a row; our three politically correct environmentally friendly 18,000BTU - total 54,000BTU - mini-split ductless heat-pumps were froze up and blowing ice-cold air (I didn't pay for them; the electric company actually paid me to put them in; I would not have paid for them and recommend that no one else does either) It was down to 51° in the house when it was 20° outside; I knew from experience that if we didn't want to wake up as icicles, I had better build a fire. Within ten minutes of striking the first match, I had it up to 75° in the far room; and, a couple times during the night, I saw it past 100° --- and the people down at the electric company probably wondered why our meter barely moved during those three days/nights. A stove like the one in the picture would cost a small fortune today; but then, it probably cost a pretty penny back then; that is a rich man's stove; we always had to settle for a poor man's stove.
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Post by BuckSkin on Feb 18, 2022 6:42:04 GMT
That is an impressive house. Does anyone know why so many older houses, rich man's house or poor, had two front doors ? When I was a kid, they were everywhere, more common than a house with a single front door. Before we moved where we are now, we owned/lived in a poor man's house with two front doors.
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