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Post by Jim on Apr 20, 2022 22:14:03 GMT
Most of the photos I have posted here fit on the page nicely so viewers can see the entire image without having to scroll up and down to see the entire photo, but sometimes the photo has to be scrolled in order to see it all at once (at least on my 24" monitor). Can someone tell me how to correctly size photos in PSE so we can see the entire image posted without having to scroll?
I use both PSE 8 and 13 and the photos I take with my Pixel 4a phone start out about 3643 X 1706. I have tried reducing the image size to 2990 X 1400 and even down to 1300 X 609 but when I post those sizes I still have to scroll to see it all in a thread. I also tried reducing the "canvas size" but it did not help. I think it happens mainly when I post a photo in Portrait mode but am not sure. Please help. Thanks.
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Post by hmca on Apr 20, 2022 23:57:47 GMT
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Post by Jim on Apr 21, 2022 1:27:46 GMT
Thanks Helen. It's a mystery to me too, why some of my photos fit just fine without even downsizing them and a few don't.  |
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Post by BuckSkin on Apr 21, 2022 2:00:14 GMT
Just so I understand, these "too large" images that are having to be scrolled are not the first view we see in the thread, but the second full-size view we see if we click on the image, correct ?
I haven't been checking any of my own images to see whether this affects them or not, but I will now that you have brought it to light.
I use the "Batch Convert Selected Images" feature in FastStone to do all of my resizing and I downsize to 2048 pixels on the long side.
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Post by hmca on Apr 21, 2022 2:32:24 GMT
these "too large" images that are having to be scrolled are not the first view we see in the thread, but the second full-size view we see if we click on the image, correct ? No, it is the first view. Check Jim's post in the weekly challenge by clicking the link at the bottom of in my post above. |
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Post by BuckSkin on Apr 21, 2022 2:44:13 GMT
Okay, I just had a look at a few of my images and every one I checked had to be scrolled up and down; and, although there were no right/left scroll bars, some of them appeared to have a bit of width clipped off.
I believe this is more of a proportion thing than an overall size thing; and, on normal perspective images, when the width fills the available viewing area, the height is more than the available area can display without scrolling.
I don't think downsizing the images more is going to change this, unless you make them pretty small.
And, once one finds the perfect dimensions that will display with no scrolling, only images that match both dimensions are going to work and changing one variable is going to put one back to having to scroll.
The only real solution I see is to find that image size, length and width, that allows the entire image to display without scrolling; and then, if an image's proportions don't match those proportions, the canvas will need be extended in one direction or the other to keep the entire image in the viewing area.
To get a ballpark idea, find an image whose width fills the viewing area with no clipping; then, measure the actual viewing area on the monitor itself, length and width --- of the imgbb viewing area --- not the monitor dimensions; monitor size will not matter; what we are looking for is proportions.
Once you get the two measurements, see what the ratio is, just like the ration of camera sensors and prints and such, such as 3:2, 4:5, and so on.
It probably won't come out to some nice even-numbered figure, but that doesn't matter; you will just have to do a bit more math.
I just now measured mine and I get 18-5/8" wide by 8-5/8" high
8 x 18 = 144 + 5 = 149 units wide
8 x 8 = 64 + 5 = 69 units tall
So we now have a ratio of 149:69 --- I am already seeing that we are dealing with something in the neighborhood of 2:1 ratio with the width being 2.??
149/69 = 2.15942029
So, depending on how accurate my initial measurement was, we are looking at an ideal ratio of 2.15942029:1 to keep the entire image in the viewing area = an image that is a little more than twice as wide as it is tall.
To round things off a bit, an image that measures 2160 x 1000 would be pretty close.
You guys do likewise with what you are seeing and see if our figures agree.
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Post by BuckSkin on Apr 21, 2022 2:53:12 GMT
these "too large" images that are having to be scrolled are not the first view we see in the thread, but the second full-size view we see if we click on the image, correct ? No, it is the first view. Check Jim's post in the weekly challenge by clicking the link at the bottom of in my post above.
Make the long side of your anorexic woman image match the long side of his little boy image, then crop the width to match his width, and see if that image will then fit without scrolling. |
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Post by hmca on Apr 21, 2022 2:57:06 GMT
Okay, I just had a look at a few of my images and every one I checked had to be scrolled up and down; You're losing me here, Buckskin. I don't have an issue with anyone's images posted here but Jim's.....his image in the weekly challenge. It is presented in portrait mode and the image takes up the whole post. You guys do likewise with what you are seeing and see if our figures agree. I sure hope the solution isn't this complicated. But thank you for trying to help. |
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Post by fotofrank on Apr 21, 2022 3:43:44 GMT
Both Images are 600pixel tall, the portrait formatted is and inch and a half taller on screen. I would say it is imgbb.com The top image will display when you click on it, the bottom one will not when I tried it.   |
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Post by BuckSkin on Apr 21, 2022 4:48:05 GMT
Just testing a theory. Your 1300 x 609 image is 2.13464696:1 ratio Helen's 6974 x 5319 image is 1.31114871:1 ratio I added canvas to the width of your image to make it 1300 x 992 with a ratio to match Helen's. Your image in the shorter/fatter picture is just as long pixel-wise as the original.   |
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Post by BuckSkin on Apr 21, 2022 4:57:42 GMT
Your image is still 1300 pixels tall; Helen's image is 2048 pixels tall. Whether they fit the viewing area or not is all about proportions. Although Helen's image is nearly twice the size of your's, pixel wise, both are the exact same ratio. If I crop one side of Helen's image to match the ratio of your original, then her image will grow in height to match the one that is too tall to view without scrolling.  |
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Post by Tpgettys on Apr 21, 2022 5:23:07 GMT
Most of the photos I have posted here fit on the page nicely so viewers can see the entire image without having to scroll up and down to see the entire photo, but sometimes the photo has to be scrolled in order to see it all at once (at least on my 24" monitor). Can someone tell me how to correctly size photos in PSE so we can see the entire image posted without having to scroll? I use both PSE 8 and 13 and the photos I take with my Pixel 4a phone start out about 3643 X 1706. I have tried reducing the image size to 2990 X 1400 and even down to 1300 X 609 but when I post those sizes I still have to scroll to see it all in a thread. I also tried reducing the "canvas size" but it did not help. I think it happens mainly when I post a photo in Portrait mode but am not sure. Please help. Thanks.
It will be helpful to know the *exact* sequence you use to post an image Jim. Using the Add image to post via imgbb.com button, I have not been able to add an image that requires scrolling, regardless of the size of the source image, so I am guessing it has to do with something else (such as how you interact with imgbb). After clicking the Add image to post via imgbb.com button, I click the cloud icon with the up-arrow inside it:
After that I am presented with a navigation dialog which allows me to locate and select an image on my computer. Once I select an image, I get this:
I simply click the green upload button and it shows up in my post as a (not very small) thumbnail.
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Post by BuckSkin on Apr 21, 2022 5:31:07 GMT
In this example, the image has been cropped to exactly match the ratio of your original 1300 pixel tall image. The actual pixel dimensions of this image are 2048 x 959 It is still exactly the same height as before, yet it now will not fit the viewing area.  |
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Post by Jim on Apr 21, 2022 7:50:59 GMT
Okay, I just had a look at a few of my images and every one I checked had to be scrolled up and down; and, although there were no right/left scroll bars, some of them appeared to have a bit of width clipped off. I believe this is more of a proportion thing than an overall size thing; and, on normal perspective images, when the width fills the available viewing area, the height is more than the available area can display without scrolling. I don't think downsizing the images more is going to change this, unless you make them pretty small. And, once one finds the perfect dimensions that will display with no scrolling, only images that match both dimensions are going to work and changing one variable is going to put one back to having to scroll. The only real solution I see is to find that image size, length and width, that allows the entire image to display without scrolling; and then, if an image's proportions don't match those proportions, the canvas will need be extended in one direction or the other to keep the entire image in the viewing area. To get a ballpark idea, find an image whose width fills the viewing area with no clipping; then, measure the actual viewing area on the monitor itself, length and width --- of the imgbb viewing area --- not the monitor dimensions; monitor size will not matter; what we are looking for is proportions. Once you get the two measurements, see what the ratio is, just like the ration of camera sensors and prints and such, such as 3:2, 4:5, and so on. It probably won't come out to some nice even-numbered figure, but that doesn't matter; you will just have to do a bit more math. I just now measured mine and I get 18-5/8" wide by 8-5/8" high 8 x 18 = 144 + 5 = 149 units wide 8 x 8 = 64 + 5 = 69 units tall So we now have a ratio of 149:69 --- I am already seeing that we are dealing with something in the neighborhood of 2:1 ratio with the width being 2.?? 149/69 = 2.15942029 So, depending on how accurate my initial measurement was, we are looking at an ideal ratio of 2.15942029:1 to keep the entire image in the viewing area = an image that is a little more than twice as wide as it is tall. To round things off a bit, an image that measures 2160 x 1000 would be pretty close. You guys do likewise with what you are seeing and see if our figures agree. You sound like you are a great mathematician Buckskin but myself, not so much, so you've pretty much lost me also. I will try to experiment with your canvas-widening idea though as it seems to be a possible solution for me. Thanks for your input. |
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Post by Jim on Apr 21, 2022 8:09:21 GMT
Most of the photos I have posted here fit on the page nicely so viewers can see the entire image without having to scroll up and down to see the entire photo, but sometimes the photo has to be scrolled in order to see it all at once (at least on my 24" monitor). Can someone tell me how to correctly size photos in PSE so we can see the entire image posted without having to scroll? I use both PSE 8 and 13 and the photos I take with my Pixel 4a phone start out about 3643 X 1706. I have tried reducing the image size to 2990 X 1400 and even down to 1300 X 609 but when I post those sizes I still have to scroll to see it all in a thread. I also tried reducing the "canvas size" but it did not help. I think it happens mainly when I post a photo in Portrait mode but am not sure. Please help. Thanks.
It will be helpful to know the *exact* sequence you use to post an image Jim. Using the Add image to post via imgbb.com button, I have not been able to add an image that requires scrolling, regardless of the size of the source image, so I am guessing it has to do with something else (such as how you interact with imgbb). After clicking the Add image to post via imgbb.com button, I click the cloud icon with the up-arrow inside it: After that I am presented with a navigation dialog which allows me to locate and select an image on my computer. Once I select an image, I get this: I simply click the green upload button and it shows up in my post as a (not very small) thumbnail.
Hi Tom. After I click the "add image to post via imgbb.com button" I click on "browse from your computer" underneath the up arrow, locate the image file on my computer, and then click "upload" so I have never even seen that "edit or resize image" dialog box before. |
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