andyp
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Post by andyp on May 4, 2022 12:29:55 GMT
Hi there, I recently found a tutorial on line to remove noise caused by using high iso. But found out later that it was made for PS cc version.
To try and replicate the way it works in cc I need to know if it is possible to do focus stacking within PSE 2022 ?
The idea is to load multiple shots (each in it's own layer) in one psd.
Hope this is clear and hope to see some replies or even advice.
Thanks and regards, Andy
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Post by Sepiana on May 4, 2022 14:12:19 GMT
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Post by shaun on May 4, 2022 15:37:48 GMT
Hi Andy, there is also a plugin you can download that has this option to use in elements. It's called elements+ . You would need to download correct version for your elements version. Sepiana might have a link for you, I think it's £12.99
Or a more expensive plugin from the plugin site called elementsxxl would also do focus stacking.
Kind regards shaun
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Post by Sepiana on May 4, 2022 15:46:17 GMT
Hi Andy, there is also a plugin you can download that has this option to use in elements. It's called elements+ . You would need to download correct version for your elements version. Sepiana might have a link for you, I think it's £12.99 Hi Shaun, thanks for joining this thread! Great suggestion! andyp, Yes, you could use Elements+. This is an add-on created by one of our members -- Andrei Doubrovski . It has a "Focus Stacking" script. Andrei is best qualified to elaborate on this; I'm sending him a PM bringing this thread to his attention. |
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Post by Andrei Doubrovski on May 4, 2022 16:06:55 GMT
Hi Andy, Elements+ includes "Noise Stacking" script that removes the noise by "averaging" several photos. This video explains how to use it: youtu.be/yqV_Ua1gMpY |
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andyp
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Post by andyp on May 4, 2022 19:37:05 GMT
Thanks for all your reactions. I'll certainly look in to your suggestion.
Regards, Andy
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andyp
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Post by andyp on May 6, 2022 17:56:05 GMT
I do have an extra question.
I live in Belgium and I have the PSE 2022 version installed on my laptop.
I can't seem to find a Belgian (or dutch) version of Elements+ on the net.
1. Can anynone help me find a version in dutch ?
2. If I were to install an English version will it work on my dutch PSE 2022 ?
Thanks for your help.
Andy
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Post by Andrei Doubrovski on May 6, 2022 18:43:53 GMT
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andyp
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Post by andyp on May 7, 2022 9:14:38 GMT
Thanks Andrei. I bought E+ and received email with link.
Do I just doubleclick the link to install it ?
Does this automatically add the extras to PSE2022 or do I need to do anything else ?
Cheers, Andy
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andyp
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Post by andyp on May 7, 2022 9:22:01 GMT
For the time being I think I have figured it out.
Is installing as we speak.
Thanks again to all.
Andy
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Post by BuckSkin on May 18, 2022 5:46:47 GMT
Elements + will be the best money you ever spent.
Maybe I am misunderstanding something here ....
To use any of the aforementioned methods of noise removal, one is going to need several separate tripod-mounted images to achieve the intended goal.
If one only has a single noisy image, this stacking business is not going to work, right ?
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andyp
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Post by andyp on May 21, 2022 13:17:22 GMT
Buckskin, that is totally correct.
Although a tripod is not always neccesary, I took 5 pictures in high iso in rapid repeat mode. Elements+ includes the lining out of the pictures ad in merging.
No two (or more) images have identical 'noise'.
Meanwhile I have tried the Elements+ "Noise Stacking" and it works ok. You can't expect perfection from imperfect pictures but the result is much better than any of the noisy pictures.
Andy
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Post by Chris on May 21, 2022 18:39:29 GMT
Buckskin, that is totally correct. Although a tripod is not always neccesary, I took 5 pictures in high iso in rapid repeat mode. Elements+ includes the lining out of the pictures ad in merging. No two (or more) images have identical 'noise'. Meanwhile I have tried the Elements+ "Noise Stacking" and it works ok. You can't expect perfection from imperfect pictures but the result is much better than any of the noisy pictures. Andy Andy, Elememts+ is an excellent software that that will make PS Elements so much more powerful. You will find so many uses for it. Using stacking to remove noise will produce a high quality image. It's often done for astronomy photos. There is special freeware available. deepskystacker.free.fr/english/index.htmlHowever, for general purpose images, and depending on the intended purpose of your image, and how many high iso images you take, you might want to consider an easier and quicker method to remove noise. For example, there is Topaz denoise AI ($$$). There are some free alternatives. If you Google, "Online AI noise removal" you will get some hits. vanceai.com/denoise-ai/. Before AI came along I used the free version of Noiseware stand alone noise removal software. Although not as good as AI, it is remarkably effective. noiseware-community-edition.en.softonic.com/ . There are also some free 64 bit noise reduction plugins available that will work with PSE 2022. www.colormancer.com/free/download-filters/noise-reduction.htm. I hope this helps. Kind regards Chris |
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Post by Peterj on May 22, 2022 0:45:50 GMT
For those who might be interested here's a test scenario I conducted PSE with Elements+ installed. The was no processing done after camera except noise stacking. The results speak for themselves. 1st image (ISO 6400) is one of the original set which was exposed with a stable camera. 2nd image is 100% view side by side comparison of original and the results of a 21 image noise stacked.
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Post by BuckSkin on May 25, 2022 8:26:08 GMT
the results of a 21 image noise stacked
That is quite impressive.
Probably a dumb question ---- the images used in a noise stack --- unlike most other bracket sets, they can all be of the same ISO and all be very noisy, right ?
If I am grasping this correctly, noise stacking would be very much akin to setting up a tripod and taking dozens of photos of some very busy public place and manipulating all the images such that all the people disappear and it looks as if the image was taken when no one was there --- except, instead of random people all over the place, it is random noise all over the place, right ?
My understanding is that three identical photos, taken with identical settings and conditions, will not have identical noise mapping, right ?
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