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Post by BuckSkin on May 5, 2015 5:53:28 GMT
I have been having a very frustrating episode concerning the "quick selection brush" in E7.
Up until a couple days ago, it worked fine; now, it will make a wonderful selection, capturing every last little detail I wanted, and, just when I think all is going to be fine, a warning pops up telling me that there is not enough RAM to complete my task.
At this point, Elements won't allow me to do anything until I click "okay" in that stupid warning box, at which time my wonderful selection disappears along with the silly box.
It does this every time I try to use the quick selection brush.
The regular selection brush works fine.
I have looked in "computer" and none of the options there appear to be even close to full.
I am not very computer adept and don't really understand what or how Elements uses RAM --- Random Access Memory --- right ?
How do I address this situation ?
On EDIT: I just had a look in Editor > Preferences > Performance
It says:
Available RAM 1623MB Ideal Range 892-1168MB Let Photoshop Elements Use : 1136MB 70% ----- Should I not adjust this slider to 100% ?
Thanks for reading.
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Post by Sepiana on May 5, 2015 6:25:36 GMT
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Post by BuckSkin on May 5, 2015 16:24:50 GMT
Thanks, Sepiana, I will see if that helps.
Reading what they say about RAM allocation for 32-bit Elements seems backwards to what I would expect.
It says setting allocation to 100% may cause one to experience "out of RAM" warnings, in which case back the allocation down to 85%; if the problem doesn't go away, continue lowering the available RAM in 5% increments until the problem goes away.
This information goes contrary to my way of thinking; surely, if Elements is warning that there is not enough RAM, one would want to increase rather than decrease the amount.
Considering RAM, are other programs using this same RAM or do they use their own specific RAM ?
Thanks.
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Post by BuckSkin on May 5, 2015 19:46:59 GMT
After reading those instructions, I went back into Editor > Edit > Preferences > Performance, set the RAM slider to 85%, and lowered the history thingie from 50 to 25; I closed, then re-launched Elements.
I was then able to make my "quick selection" without getting that warning box.
Although in the preferences dialogue box it only shows the available RAM for a 32-bit OS, from what I understand, the RAM is almost double that figure for a 64-bit OS.
Is it possible that some other program(s) that I have open are using up my RAM ? (I wish I had a better understanding of such things)
Thanks.
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Post by Major Major on May 5, 2015 20:07:58 GMT
Buckskin -
Yes - all of your open programs use RAM.
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Post by BuckSkin on May 5, 2015 20:30:38 GMT
Buckskin - Yes - all of your open programs use RAM.
Is this true even when they are "minimized" down to the task-bar ?
And, does this also apply to web browsing tabs, image folders, and such ?
Many thanks.
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Post by Major Major on May 5, 2015 20:52:23 GMT
Buckskin - Yes - all of your open programs use RAM.
Is this true even when they are "minimized" down to the task-bar ? Yes.
And, does this also apply to web browsing tabs, image folders, and such ? Well, it applies to your browser, and minimally to tabs.
Yes to image folders.
Everything has to live in your computer somewhere, and if it's open, that somewhere is RAM.
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Post by BuckSkin on May 5, 2015 21:05:13 GMT
Everything has to live in your computer somewhere, and if it's open, that somewhere is RAM.
Thanks for explaining it to me.
Can I increase this RAM; and, if so, is it something I buy or how do I go about it ?
Thanks.
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Post by Tpgettys on May 5, 2015 21:55:26 GMT
Everything has to live in your computer somewhere, and if it's open, that somewhere is RAM. Thanks for explaining it to me.
Can I increase this RAM; and, if so, is it something I buy or how do I go about it ?
Thanks.
You can (and should) increase your RAM. You will need to do a little research to determine what kind of RAM is compatible with your computer. You will also need to determine how many (if any) memory slots are free. If you have free slots you can put new memory into them. Sometimes all your memory slots are already populated, in which case you will have to replace the existing memory with larger memory.
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Post by Major Major on May 5, 2015 22:01:16 GMT
What Tom said.
Best bet: take it to a reputable computer shop and don't mess with it yourself
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Post by BuckSkin on May 5, 2015 23:12:23 GMT
Thanks to both of you.
Around here, that word "reputable" is probably gonna be a snag; over the years, we have had cause maybe three or four times to haul a computer to some repair guy or another, all highly recommended to us by various relatives who probably never had them fix a thing; I cannot remember an instance where the fifty or more dollars we spent was any more than a costly lesson to just park them in the closet and get another.
I do know of one young lad whom we haven't tried yet; he seems to be a fairly quick lad; when I get ready to do this RAM business, I may give him the task.
Although I am a fair hand at just about anything I ever tried, there have been a few occasions where that advice about "don't mess with it yourself" would have been well heeded.
Thanks so much for all the help and information.
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Post by Sepiana on May 5, 2015 23:44:44 GMT
BuckSkin,
Just some clarification on the subject of adding RAM to your computer.
Additional RAM will be beneficial to your computer as a whole. However, keep this mind. Elements 7 is a 32-bit application and it gets installed as such on a 64-bit OS. This means that Elements 7 won’t be able to take advantage of all the extra RAM; it will not be able to access more than 4 GB of RAM (more precisely, no more than 3.2 GB). It will be a different story if you have Elements 13. This version is a 64- bit application and will be able to access amounts of RAM beyond 4 GB.
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Post by BuckSkin on May 6, 2015 5:04:32 GMT
Thanks for the clarification, Sepiana; and, thanks for the link to the information that cured my immediate situation.
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Post by Sepiana on May 6, 2015 14:32:53 GMT
Thanks for the clarification, Sepiana; and, thanks for the link to the information that cured my immediate situation. BuckSkin, you are most welcome! Glad to hear the Adobe instructions solved the problem.
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Post by Tpgettys on May 6, 2015 19:24:10 GMT
Thanks to both of you. Around here, that word "reputable" is probably gonna be a snag; over the years, we have had cause maybe three or four times to haul a computer to some repair guy or another, all highly recommended to us by various relatives who probably never had them fix a thing; I cannot remember an instance where the fifty or more dollars we spent was any more than a costly lesson to just park them in the closet and get another. I do know of one young lad whom we haven't tried yet; he seems to be a fairly quick lad; when I get ready to do this RAM business, I may give him the task. Although I am a fair hand at just about anything I ever tried, there have been a few occasions where that advice about "don't mess with it yourself" would have been well heeded. Thanks so much for all the help and information. Here is a link to an intro to Installing RAM; it tells you the variations possible; just focus on the ones pertaining to your computer. It really isn't a big deal, once you have some idea of what you are looking at. Anyway, looking at that article should help you feel more knowledgeable, even if you elect not to do it.
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