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Post by ritage on Aug 4, 2016 21:56:10 GMT
Sepiana, I am not able to do that in either PSE14 or Photoshop. It's an interesting little problem and the solution might be helpful in other situations, although I can't think of one offhand.
Rita
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Post by Lillias on Aug 4, 2016 21:57:02 GMT
I have tried both and yes I have Contiguous turned off. I am now finding that I can use the quick selection tool without it selecting the whole page (don't know why I couldn't do that before) but making a selection of a complicated or intricate item is going to prove difficult to say the least.
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Post by Sepiana on Aug 5, 2016 4:01:29 GMT
Sepiana, I am not able to do that in either PSE14 or Photoshop. It's an interesting little problem and the solution might be helpful in other situations, although I can't think of one offhand. Rita Rita,
When the shape is not touching the edge of the canvas, it becomes tricky to make a selection but it is not impossible. When you use the Quick Selection tool, Elements or Photoshop will automatically follow your brush (cursor) movements and will begin calculating where the edges of your selection are going to be. What I do in such a situation is to use the smallest brush size possible and go very slowly. If these calculations are a bit off, picking up unwanted areas, I hold down the Alt key to immediately subtract from the selection.
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Post by Sepiana on Aug 5, 2016 18:23:30 GMT
. . . but making a selection of a complicated or intricate item is going to prove difficult to say the least. BillieJean,
You may want to try this alternative. It doesn’t involve making a selection with the Quick Selection tool or the Magic Wand tool, and using the Eraser tool (which I avoid using due to its destructive nature). It uses a layer mask for more editing flexibility.
1. Add a layer mask to the paper/texture layer.
2. Activate the Brush tool (color = Black) and paint over the areas you want to hide.
3. If you make a mistake, just paint over the areas again with White.
NOTE:
You can also take advantage of the mask to see if you missed any spots. I believe this will be quite handy if you are working with very intricate ornamental designs. Just Alt-Click on the mask thumbnail (the white square). This will display the mask in the workspace and you can make any necessary corrections. Alt-Click again on the mask thumbnail to return to your image.
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Post by Lillias on Aug 5, 2016 22:36:28 GMT
Thank you for this information Sepiana and you are correct in that it could be done this way but to be honest I don't think I would like to tackle an intricate piece this way as I don't think I have enough patience or a steady enough hand to do it properly – even allowing for the fact of using a mask where mistakes can be rectified.
Maybe I am just so used to doing this using the other software which makes it easy to accomplish a nice finished edge.
But I do thank you for taking the time to try and find a way of using PSE for this purpose.
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Post by Sepiana on Aug 5, 2016 23:10:16 GMT
BillieJean,
I am sure there is a better way to do this but I can't think of it; I am not a digital scrapbooking expert. I just can't imagine users of Elements having to purchase an extra piece of software to accomplish something like this. Maybe someone else will have a better idea. Did you check sites/forums devoted to digital scrapbooking + Elements? They may have the answer you are seeking.
Here is someone who would have the answer -- Linda Sattgast
digitalscrapper.com/about/
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Post by cats4jan on Aug 6, 2016 1:40:07 GMT
I think - in most instances - making a selection of the design by control/command clicking on the thumbnail of the design layer and deleting - is the easiest way of doing this. In almost all cases, erasing the part that is near the corner can be done with the eraser tool or, if the edges are touching the edge of the canvas - using the quick selection tool to finish the job.
In essense, the procedure with her other software and with PSE is about the same amount of work and time - thus, the answer is - there is no easier way to do this in PSE. But the good news is - it can easily be done.
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Post by Lillias on Aug 6, 2016 15:58:12 GMT
I think the way Janice has shown is the easiest way to do this using PSE. I realise that the erasing part is destructive but sometimes that can't be helped.
Also I think her earlier suggestion of expanding the selection to create a bit of space between the item and the BG paper is important to the finished result.
Thanks again for all the contributions to this thread.
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Post by Sepiana on Aug 6, 2016 19:18:41 GMT
BillieJean, you are most welcome! Glad Janice's way worked for your project. She is a scrapbooker; she knows her stuff.
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