riandei
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Post by riandei on Aug 26, 2016 12:43:34 GMT
I am considering getting CC with he monthly plan and making the switch from PSE 12. I see things that I want to do that I just cannot in PSE.
I see that I can send all my photos over to CC from PSE ... seemlessly it appears
my question is this ... If I decide that i don't want to stay with CC ... will I be able to get all my photos back to PSE.
and any thoughts on switching for those of you that use both would be greatly appreciated
thanks
eileen
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bnk1953
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Post by bnk1953 on Aug 26, 2016 13:19:07 GMT
Which CC are you thinking about? The one with just Photoshop & Lightroom or another version? I ended up just buying the Perpetual License for Lightroom which means its all mine. Adobe doesn't update it as much as it does it's CC version - which is fine for me at this time. My workflow is basically catalog and raw conversion in Lightroom and then migrate over to On1 10 for enhancements, effects, portraits, resizing and even layers. It is a plugin and a standalone program all in one. On1 is coming out with a new program this Fall that looks interesting in that it will do RAW and many more things within the RAW conversion. I sometimes use PSE but not as much as I used to. The one main question after this long reply - what exactly are looking to do with CC that you aren't able to do in PSE? ~bruce.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2016 14:36:59 GMT
I recently switched to PS and LR CC, but as I use LR for all my cataloging I cannot comment on that part. I had LR 5 up to then, and the catalog transferred easy enough with no issues.
As to your other question, once you stop your subscription with CC the photos are still yours, as they will reside either on your computer or an EHD, so they are not transferred into the cloud so to speak. What you won't be able to do after you stop your CC subscription is to actually use the program to work on your photos.
I am sure there are others here that can explain all this in far more detail than I have.
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Post by tourerjim on Aug 26, 2016 19:08:41 GMT
You could download the CC free 30 day trial before you commit to monthly contract.
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Post by Sepiana on Aug 27, 2016 1:27:08 GMT
You could download the CC free 30 day trial before you commit to monthly contract. Unfortunately, the CC trial period has been reduced to just 7 days. This change went into effect last May.
Update on Creative Cloud Trials
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Post by Sepiana on Aug 27, 2016 2:41:55 GMT
Eileen,
I am assuming you are talking about subscribing to the photography plan (Photoshop CC + Lightroom CC). As Simone explained, your photos are not kept inside Photoshop, Lightroom, or Elements. All the Library module in Lightroom and the Organizer module in Elements will do is maintain a catalog of your files. Your files are stored on your computer. It is just like the old-fashioned card catalog in a library. The catalog cards with the pertinent information on the books are kept in the drawers; the books themselves are stored on the shelves.
Are you planning to also store your photos in the Creative Cloud storage services? If so, you need to keep the following in mind. Once you cancel your subscription, your storage limits in the Creative Cloud will be reduced to the level of the free membership. According to the CC FAQs, if you are above this new reduced limit, Adobe will give you 90 days to remove some of your photos to free up storage space. If you don’t comply you may not be able to continue accessing some or all of your photos. I don’t know if Adobe really enforces this policy. This is something that you would have to check with them.
Subscription to the CC version of Photoshop/Lightroom is very similar to subscribing to Internet services – no pay, no service. Once you stop your monthly payment, Adobe will pull the plug on both programs. They will still be on your computer but they will be disabled. Adobe won’t turn them back on unless you reinstate your payments. However, Adobe is a bit more generous when it comes to Lightroom. According to their FAQs, only the Develop module will be disabled; you can still access the Library and the Export module.
Also, another thing to keep in mind is that, depending on the nature of the editing you do in Photoshop CC, you will have a problem if you cancel your subscription and go back to use Elements. Why? Because not every Photoshop feature/tool is available in Elements. For example: Layer Groups. (A grouped layer will display a folder icon.) Layer Groups are used to organize your layers when you have too many of them; it is a very common feature in template files which consist of many layers. These layer groups can be collapsed and expanded. Unfortunately, you cannot do so in Photoshop Elements. This means that, unless you saved a copy of your files with the layers intact (not grouped), you will have to install an add-on to enable Elements to open these layer groups.
I am always hesitant to advise anyone when it comes to acquiring a given program. My standard answer is -- Download the free trial and test the waters. In this way, you will be able to make an informed decision, one based on your needs, interests, and budget.
It is also a good idea to check Adobe’s CC FAQs to get the answers you need straight from the horse’s mouth. Creative Cloud | Common questions
I am also curious -- What are the things that you want to do that cannot be done in Elements?
Each and every version of Elements is based on a given version of Photoshop. Yes, some of the Photoshop features/tools are not available in Elements. However, Adobe has been steadily giving Elements features/tools which once were for Photoshop users only. Also, many of these features are "inside" Elements; they are just hidden, turned off. There are add-ons out there which, once installed in Elements, will turn on these features and they will do it for a very reasonable price such as: Elements+ ($12) and Elements XXL ($49.95)
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Post by Sydney on Aug 27, 2016 7:01:32 GMT
If you can wait for another month (if history of past releases is any indication) PSE 15 should be out. You would be able to trial it for 30 days to see if it has any new features that you might be looking for. Just a thought.
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rapata
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Post by rapata on Aug 27, 2016 23:57:08 GMT
One more thing to consider if you are going with the Photography plan (Photoshop and Lightroom for 9.99 a month) it is actually an annual plan with monthly payments, not a month by month subscription. you also get Lightroom Mobile, which is one of the reasons I subscribe as I love being able to sync collections over to my IPad and do a lot of my sorting and culling there
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Post by tourerjim on Aug 28, 2016 5:40:58 GMT
Is it curiosity to want to use CC/lightroom...? I do a lot of image art work in pse for family & friends as well as myself & don't feel im ready to move to CC so to have CC be nice but don't think I would gain any better results, I've an old version of ps & my skill level back then didn't warrant the price.
Then on the other hand there isn't a lot of difference price wise now between pse & cc/lightroom.
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Post by Sepiana on Aug 28, 2016 5:58:53 GMT
Then on the other hand there isn't a lot of difference price wise now between pse & cc/lightroom. Yes, but . . . when you get Elements you are paying for a perpetual license. You pay once and that's it. I paid for Elements 4 many years ago and I can still use it whenever I want. That's not the case with any one of the Creative Cloud apps. That's the big difference -- you don't keep up your payments, i.e., you don't maintain your subscription (rent) and that's it. No CC program for you to use.
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Post by tourerjim on Aug 30, 2016 6:22:22 GMT
Then on the other hand there isn't a lot of difference price wise now between pse & cc/lightroom. Yes, but . . . when you get Elements you are paying for a perpetual license. You pay once and that's it. I paid for Elements 4 many years ago and I can still use it whenever I want. That's not the case with any one of the Creative Cloud apps. That's the big difference -- you don't keep up your payments, i.e., you don't maintain your subscription (rent) and that's it. No CC program for you to use. And that's what I like about pse" it's mine, as well there's everything I need within the editing, my grandsons 12 years old has become a good photographer & after couple year of learning a coarse has recently decided to try pse 13 & mentioned yesterday when I was showing him some tips with pse the speed of which my laptop works compared with his which made me think to pop back here just to mention pc/laptop performance could be a main issue to putting us off staying with pse, however I know there are no gains with ps as i experienced some years ago.
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