Fauxtoto
Established Forum Member
Quebec, Canada
Posts: 440
Open to constructive criticism of photos: Yes
|
Post by Fauxtoto on Oct 5, 2016 0:49:57 GMT
Thank you Sepiana for these links. I did practice both techniques, with different images. I was more successful with the technique that uses the gradient tool and a multiply mode layer. When applicable, it is indeed quite simple and effective. Among other things, because it does not require a formal selection, it avoids the halo problem. However, when I use the threshold adjustment layer technique, I still encounter serious halo problems, particularly in the foliage, as I do when I am using a mask, even in cases where I think the selection is pretty good. I am working on it. Halo can hardly be discussed in the abstract. It is a topic per se that I reserve maybe for another post. I did observe in the tutorial concerning the threshold adjustment layer technique that the author deletes his selection instead of creating a mask. Is there an advantage to do so? I tend to believe that, generally speaking, the mask is more versatile? |
|
|
|
Post by Sepiana on Oct 5, 2016 1:45:09 GMT
Thank you Sepiana for these links. I did practice both techniques, with different images. I was more successful with the technique that uses the gradient tool and a multiply mode layer. When applicable, it is indeed quite simple and effective. Among other things, because it does not require a formal selection, it avoids the halo problem. However, when I use the threshold adjustment layer technique, I still encounter serious halo problems, particularly in the foliage, as I do when I am using a mask, even in cases where I think the selection is pretty good. I am working on it. Halo can hardly be discussed in the abstract. It is a topic per se that I reserve maybe for another post. I did observe in the tutorial concerning the threshold adjustment layer technique that the author deletes his selection instead of creating a mask. Is there an advantage to do so? I tend to believe that, generally speaking, the mask is more versatile? Fauxfoto,
I need to take a look at that tutorial. I will get back here.
I believe the same. A layer mask adds more flexibility to the editing process. And the best part? It is a non-destructive technique. You can always delete the mask and start over.
|
|
|
|
Post by Sepiana on Oct 5, 2016 1:49:30 GMT
Fauxfoto,
I have some notes on the technique using the Brush tool (Overlay mode) on a layer mask to get rid of those "pesky" halos. I will look for them and post back here. |
|
|
|
Post by Sepiana on Oct 10, 2016 4:21:05 GMT
Fauxfoto,
Sorry it took me so long to get back to this thread. I finally found my notes on how to use the Brush tool in the Overlay mode to remove a fringe (halo) around the edge of a selection.
1. Activate the Quick Selection tool and make your selection.
2. Bring up Refine Edge and make the following adjustments in the Adjust Edge section.
Smooth – about 10 px
Feather – about 1 px
Shift Edge – about minus 5 px
3. Output your selection as New Layer with Layer Mask.
4. Move or Copy>Paste your selection onto the new background.
5. Zoom in close to the edge of your selection and check if you can see a fringe (halo) around it.
6. Activate the Brush tool. Foreground color = Black.
7. Go to the Tool Options bar and change the Brush's Mode from Normal to Overlay.
8. Make sure the layer mask is activated. Paint over the fringe (halo).
9. If you make a mistake, change the foreground to White and paint back over the area(s).
NOTE: As you paint over the fringe around the edge of your selection, you will see the fringe disappear but your selection will not be affected.
I also remember another technique to get rid of a fringe around your selection edge.
helpx.adobe.com/photoshop-elements/using/modifying-selections.html#defringe_a_selection
|
|
Fauxtoto
Established Forum Member
Quebec, Canada
Posts: 440
Open to constructive criticism of photos: Yes
|
Post by Fauxtoto on Oct 11, 2016 21:10:55 GMT
Wow! Thank you so much Sepiana. I now have one more trick in my bag. Depending on the case, I had to play with the values in Refine Edge. Generally speaking, I was able to obtain better results in less time.I am still having problems selecting foliage, but I suppose that this is part of normal limitations to the conventional black and white layer mask in normal mode. Much useful. Thanks, again!
|
|
