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Post by BuckSkin on Sept 28, 2016 19:01:32 GMT
I have this downloaded and awaiting installation: www.johnrellis.com/psedbtool/However, the installation instructions leave a bit to be desired, at least for thick-headed me. The business about "volume table" and "print results to notepad" and "someone helping you on EV or Adobe" sort of have me buffaloed. I understand the zip-file business; it is what is said from that point on that I don't quite comprehend. Thanks for reading.
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Post by Sepiana on Sept 28, 2016 19:31:46 GMT
When John R Ellis created this tool, he was a longstanding and active member in the now-closed Elements Village forum and in the Adobe Photoshop Elements forum. He was widely recognized as an expert at Elements. Now he has moved on to Lightroom. I believe this is what he means . . . If you are having problems with the installation of this tool and you have posted in either one of those forums asking for help, you should attach (copy/paste) the results displayed in NotePad to your thread. This will help with the troubleshooting process. BTW, if you want to put a face to a name . . .
John R Ellis
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Post by BuckSkin on Sept 28, 2016 20:10:04 GMT
Thanks for moving this to the Organizer section and for the JRE info.
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Post by Major Major on Sept 28, 2016 20:57:21 GMT
Sepiana -
That's the way I read it too. It's merely a troubleshooting device.
Buckskin, just ignore and unzip and install the file.
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Post by michelb on Sept 29, 2016 20:53:08 GMT
It's important to note that psedbtool will not work with Elements 9 or newer. That said, the help file you are reading gives excellent information about the way the Organizer works with different drives.
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Post by BuckSkin on Oct 5, 2016 4:22:06 GMT
Well..., I am in a bit of a puzzlement; I went to my downloads folder, hi-lited the psedbtool zip-file, and clicked "open", at which point a windows un-zipper window appeared with C:\psedbtool already entered as the destination folder for the contents; I clicked "okay" and here is the contents in that folder: The colorful circle file takes you to here: file:///C:/psedbtool/psedbtool.htm which is exactly the same text you get when you go here: www.johnrellis.com/psedbtool/At this point, I have not yet seen any installation wizard. It matters not whether I hi-lite and click "open" or just double-click the .exe file (the top one in the picture), a small black window with a bit of white text appears for just a split second; it won't remain on the screen; it just appears and immediately disappears. I right-clicked and chose "run as administrator" (I had never before used this option on anything); choosing this brought up the familiar "do you want this file etc. etc. to make changes to the hard drive on this computer?"; I was too big a chicken to click "yes"; I Xed it away and decided to ask the experts before I proceed further. What major catastrophe could take place if I did click "yes" to run this as administrator ? Has anyone else ever installed psedbtool ? Does it install itself as a plug-in to the organizer; and, if not, then how does it communicate with the organizer ? Please, somebody smarter than me help me get this up and running. Earlier today, I used "write tags and metadata to files" and then had to pick through the folder and rename about thirty files back to the name they had prior to "write tags and metadata..."; Elements had left them sporting that _edTMP-1 suffix planted on them; hence, I then got interested in getting this psedbtool up and running. Thanks for reading.
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Post by michelb on Oct 5, 2016 6:55:44 GMT
It can't be simpler... for old user still remembering DOS and .bat commands. If you read the text in the link, you find: Just double-click the file run.bat.Note that .bat files are text files with a series of DOS commands, which you can edit. The tools starts an sql Database query which outputs a text result, quckly shown in the 'command' window, then displayed in notepad. The tool will find the latest catalog in use with your Elements version (must be version 8 maximum).
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Post by BuckSkin on Oct 5, 2016 15:49:55 GMT
Okay, with the Organizer open --- I figure since this tool deals with the organizer that maybe it needs be open ---,I open the .bat-file thingie and I get this: Clicking on the hidden black window to bring it to the front gets this: That little bar underneath the text at the left side is winking like maybe it is a cursor. This may be as simple as falling off the tater wagon that I rode in on, but it sure is a mystery to me. Thanks for reading.
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Post by michelb on Oct 5, 2016 16:18:29 GMT
If you have opened the psedbtool folder and double clicked the run.bat (I assume so because you have the screenshot), then the result should be a 'output.log' text file in the same folder. The organizer should not be open. You can open the run.bat and the output.log files in notepad from that folder. If the output.log file is not present, that's another story. To test the process I have used my present Windows 10 and the output.log showed the analysis of the tables of my last PSE6 catalog. What's your organizer version? (up to version 7)? Is your catalog in default location (catalogs accessible to all users)?
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Post by BuckSkin on Oct 5, 2016 16:29:39 GMT
Elements 7 and catalog should be in default location.
There is nothing in my C:\psedbtool folder except for the original three files I pictured earlier.
Thanks.
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Post by michelb on Oct 5, 2016 19:16:45 GMT
I did not notice that you have extracted the zip file to Windows\System32. You should not change the default psedbtool file: it should be on C:\psedbtool. If you unzip to Windows\System32 you get the message you have displayed. (By the way, the psedbtool does work up to pSE8, not pse7 as I stated wrongly) I have modified the run.bat to add a line creating a pause to allow me to take the screenshot. As you can see, the command batch file run.bat is started from the C:\psedbtool directory. Edit: If you have really unzipped in C:\psedbtool, did you simply double click 'run.bat' or directly clicked on the psedbtool.exe file?
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Post by BuckSkin on Oct 6, 2016 3:12:11 GMT
I have no idea why that says system 32; in the folder tree it is Computer > Windows(C:) > psedbtool; when I first downloaded the zip-file, I clicked "run" and a windows un-zipper popped up with that location already chosen.
Maybe I should rename/hide that folder and start all over at the beginning; what do you think?
I am mostly wanting to use the write metadata to files feature as when I let the organizer do it I get all sorts of corruptions.
Thanks so much for having the patience to help me.
On EDIT: I just renamed/hid the psedbtool folder and started fresh from the beginning with no change in my results.
When you un-zipped your files, did you get any install wizard to actually install the .exe file ?
Thanks.
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Post by BuckSkin on Oct 6, 2016 4:05:07 GMT
Okay.................., I decided maybe I got a corrupted download; so, I downloaded the program fresh from the beginning; I un-zipped the files into the folder, double-clicked the "run" file, and got this : Now.........., if I only knew what to do with it; I am totally unfamiliar with this process; is it a "command line" ? Thanks so much.
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Post by michelb on Oct 6, 2016 8:33:18 GMT
That time, you got it right. The result shown in notepad is an analysis of how your various drives are recorded in the database. When a catalog is created, each time you import files from a given media: intenal/external drive, thumb drive, CD/DVD, it catalogs the properties of that media. The run.bat is a file type to run a series of command lines; it includes calling an .exe program which is used to issue a query to the database engine. What you see in Notepad is in part what you could see by using an sqlite browser with the volume_table table, plus other results like the number of files (and missing files) in each volume. That's important to know why you get certain errors, as described in the help text file; for instance, twice the same drive letter.
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Post by don26812 on Oct 23, 2016 16:51:36 GMT
The length and apparent interest in this thread, is a tool like psedbtool for more recent versions of PSE - those since PSE 9 would be very useful.
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