lucian
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Post by lucian on Oct 23, 2016 23:42:21 GMT
I've followed the directions in the helpx to RESIZE>SCALE but to no success. I attempted to resize to scale (proportionally) a 4x6 layer to about 2x3. I've pulled from the corner inward and the image is distorted (too narrow); SHIFT and pulled gets the same result; ALT and pulled gets the same result.
I am using PSE2, PSE5 and PSE8.
In Photoshop CS, CS3 and CS5 I have no difficulties accomplishing this.
Is there a better way to do this? Am I doing the RESIZE>SCALE improperly?
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Post by hmca on Oct 24, 2016 0:16:32 GMT
lucian......see if this will work for you: 1. Hold down Command/Option or Alt and the letter i 2. This will open the Image Size Screen. You can then type in the size that you want. 
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Post by lucian on Oct 24, 2016 1:26:35 GMT
Thank you for your reply.
I tried this in PSE2 & PSE7.
I have an open 8x10 background. Layer 1 is a 6x4. I attempted to resize the 6x4 to scale by pulling in from the corner(s).
((In CS/CS3/CS5 I just held down the SHIFT key and clicked and dragged from the corners and the image would resize proportionally. But in every version of PSE/2/5/7/8 I've used this is not successful.))
Doing an image resize is a reasonable workaround but the method you suggested does not function, as I expect/want, on my laptop (Win10).
Alt + i gives me the same pull down menu as clicking on the menu IMAGE. But the screen shot you have doesn't work on my laptop.
I'm trying to adjust to PSE from CS. I'm retired now and don't have access to CS anymore.
From what I can come up with now is to crop to the desired size and then COPY>PASTE.
PSE is presenting a learning curve.
Thanks for the assist.
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Post by hmca on Oct 24, 2016 1:53:29 GMT
lucian, I'm sorry this didn't work for you. But don't give up, I'm sure one of our other members will be able to help you out.
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lucian
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Post by lucian on Oct 24, 2016 2:33:20 GMT
It might be a case of my being used to CS. I've checked some of my reference books but haven't found the answer I want. But in-lieu of the answer I want I'll use a work-around. Maybe during install on this laptop top something went amiss.
Again thanks for the help.
P.S. If I do figure it out I'll be sure to post.
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Post by Tpgettys on Oct 24, 2016 5:26:42 GMT
I attempted to resize to scale (proportionally) a 4x6 layer to about 2x3. Hi lucian . I am uncertain about what you are trying to do, precisely. Are you wanting to keep the canvas size fixed, but shrink the image size down without changing the canvas size? If so, Resize | Scale sounds like the correct choice. Just be sure that the Constrain Proportions box is checked. |
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Post by cats4jan on Oct 24, 2016 8:28:09 GMT
Have you tried the move tool? Just push in the corner. Whether you need to hold down the shift key depends on which version of PSE you are using. Try it both ways. Personally, I've never used "resize"
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Post by Andrei Doubrovski on Oct 24, 2016 11:03:11 GMT
Lucian,
Perhaps, you are trying to transform the Background layer.
Please, try to unlock it:
Layer > New > Layer from Background
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Post by hmca on Oct 24, 2016 12:33:24 GMT
Another thought on this......working with 4x6 and 2x3, you should be able to do this. However, I am thinking that the dimensions of 8x10 and 6x4 are not proportionate to each other and that is why it isn't working.
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Post by fotofrank on Oct 24, 2016 15:47:05 GMT
In Photoshop the command is Edit>Transform>Scale, in Elements why not use the equivalent of Image>Transform>Free Transform. Make sure the constrain proportion is checked. The newer versions have a Scale option in Free Transforms.
Edit>Transform>Scale and Image>Resize>Scale may not work the same across the platforms.
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Post by Major Major on Oct 24, 2016 17:32:44 GMT
It seems like all these suggestions are a bit extra work. Why not use Image | Resize | Image size (just make sure constrain proportions is checked)?
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Post by PeteB on Oct 24, 2016 18:03:23 GMT
Lucian Assuming your 2x3 (ratio) image would print an 8x12 and what you want to print is an 8x10….. Try this. File>New>Blank File Size>Landscape, 8x10 (Resolution 300) Open your photo (BTW, I’m working in Float All Windows) Select Move Tool, hold down the Option (alt) key and drag photo onto the new background The photo is larger than the new background so you won’t see the white background Command T brings up Transform and Command 0 (zero) will bring up a Bounding Box around the photo. (Top image below) Select one of the corner handles and drag in toward the center of the background layer Using the handles you can now adjust the image to fit the background. (Lower image below) Commit the transformation (Check mark) The final image will be cropped because the background is 8x10 (4x5 ratio) and the photo is an 8x12 (2x3 ratio) Flatten the image Of course an easy alternative is to open the larger image and then use the crop tool.  |
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Post by lucian on Oct 24, 2016 18:18:42 GMT
THANK YOU - SUCCESS!
fotofrank - Edit>Transform>Scale was what I was trying to describe.
cats4jan - the MOVE tool was the way to go. It gave the equivalent of PS Edit>Transform>Scale.
Using the MOVE tool I was able to accomplish the RESIZE/TRANSFORM to scale and keep the proper proportions. I was able to accomplish this by getting the double-arrow in any corner of my image (Layer 1) and Click+Drag the arrow/corner inward. Dragging inward or outward I could change the size of the image and keep the proper proportions.
Using the MOVE tool this way equaled Free>Transform>Layer (Ctrl + Z).
I use this method successfully in PSE7. In PSE2 I had to select the MOVE tool, get the double arrow at a corner, press and hold SHIFT then Click + drag from the corner. To prevent any distortion you have to release the Click + Drag BEFORE releasing the SHIFT key.
There are times when I will add a photo to my .psd document. I try to get an exact crop for size but there are times when an image needs a bit of tweaking (making the image larger or smaller) to fit the montage. This is frequently the case when trying to fit a portrait exactly in a specified area.
Folks, thank you all for your help which is very much appreciated. This was one of those little things that just bugged me immensely.
peteb - I saw your post after I posted the above. You explained what I was trying to do better than I. That was a procedure I used in the photolab (CS3) to resize portraits to fit a frame. It works too. Thank you. It's easy to know what I wanted to do just a bit more difficult to put into words. I'm out of practice.
Again thanks to all.
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Post by hmca on Oct 24, 2016 18:41:55 GMT
lucian .......thank you for reporting back to us. I am so glad that you were able to resolve your problem. Thank you also to Tom, Janice, Andrei, Frank, Craig and Pete for reaching out to help this member!
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