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Post by callsign on Nov 16, 2016 14:44:30 GMT
Can someone please tell me whether the creation of Picture Packages has changed materially since, say, PSE 11? And if there have been, when did they take place?
At the end of 2015 I was busy putting PSE 11 and Window 8.1 to good use digitising and generally tidying up my catalogue of family images etc, by leaning heavily on the Pictures Package (PP) facility. I first made use of PP with PSE 9 creating my own templates with guides to assist placement, saving the finished template and putting the Package away in a separate folder until I was ready to print them.
This work had to cease in early 2016 when I ran into technical problems which meant reconstructing the catalogue. That labour is now completed (I hope) and normal operations have been resumed.
However, the big sticking point I have encountered centres around my inability to recall how to get the Package operation to work as I think it used to do and my stubborn reluctance to accept that what I was so familiar with may not now be available.
My specific problems appear to focus on the Prints window where I find it impossible to get my own template to fill the page; nor can I find a way to drag and drop images, which would move to the centre spot around which I could play musical chairs by dragging and dropping until the template was populated in the way I wanted it.
I cannot be precise about when I first used a Package but my notes show that PSE 9 was involved at an early stage, followed by PSE 11 & 13. Windows was used throughout; Windows 10 and PSE 14 were introduced during the reconstruction work.
Any help would be much appreciated.
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Post by lucian on Nov 20, 2016 14:01:09 GMT
I sent you a PM with several questions. As a studio photographer I used Picture Packages a lot. I'm not sure if my thought on Picture Packages is the same as what you're looking to do.
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Post by Sepiana on Nov 20, 2016 19:31:00 GMT
Can someone please tell me whether the creation of Picture Packages has changed materially since, say, PSE 11? And if there have been, when did they take place? Back in Elements 11 Adobe did a major overhaul of this program. This also included making major changes to the Organizer but, unless I am missing something, I can't find any evidence that the Picture Package feature was affected. (Someone, please, correct me if I am wrong). These changes pertained to the new Organizer's system of People, Places, and Events. Now the Organizer is a more automated system when it comes to categorizing your photos.
See if this will help . . .
Printing photos in Elements Organizer (Help file) Create Photo Prints (Help file) How to Print Picture Packages from Photoshop Elements 11
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Post by callsign on Nov 21, 2016 16:43:33 GMT
Thank you Lucian, Sepiana for trying to help me. I'm afraid I'm still thrashing around trying to sort myself out, with little success, though.
I want to try something else now but it will be new territory again and I would welcome some reassurances before I start.
Yesterday I stumbled across the fact that on a little used (by me) PC computer I have working copies of PSE 9 and PSE 11; it was on this computer that I did all of my printing up to the end of 2015. Unfortunately the computer cannot speak so I shall have to spend some time trying to find out whether it is a clean, machine, empty of elements gold nuggets, I suspect it is. However, I am hoping that PSE 11 might be a big help, my initial findings are promising.
What I want to know now is whether I could load up PSE 11 on my laptop behind PSE 14 or is it something that must be avoided at all costs. My intentions are to prepare the files in PSE 14, move finished copies for printing in PSE 11 to the PC and ensure they would not come back to the laptop that created them before deletion.
I remain convinced that in 2015 I was using PSE 11 to create A4 packages of images of all shapes and sizes, which were freely moveable around the page, and it seems worthwhile spending a day or two trying to avoid the straight-jacket Adobe would now have me use and slow me down.
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Post by michelb on Nov 21, 2016 17:25:38 GMT
Maybe what you are after is not to make a 'Picture Package', which is an option of the 'Print' dialog, but a 'Photo Collage', which is in the Create Section and lets you compose a page with freely layed out photos, then save the project for further use? The options of the Picture Package are limited and you can't save a project. The best you can do is to print to a virtual PDF printer to save your page for further use.
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Post by lucian on Nov 21, 2016 18:25:13 GMT
callsign, Do you have a sample of your portrait package that you could post? I've attached a sample of my portrait package. When I was in the studio many of our customers wanted extra prints. We could give them soft copies on CD. These were produced on 8.5x11 which matched most of the papers available for home printing. We stopped using the automated package printer because there we sometimes variations in the print. Most were barely noticeable but still there. The automated process would sometimes crop off a little bit on the top or sides. We then created/cropped our own sizes (i.e. 8x10 to 4x5, 5x7 to wallet size) and then plugged them into a template (we premade) or we just did a copy, paste and moved things to fit on the page. This took a little longer to produce but ensuring the quality for our customer was worth the effort. We made templates for packages that were most often requested. Our second template we made for our police photography. We used this template for accident coverage, insurance claims, crime scenes, etc. These were made on 8.5x11 because that was the size of regular typing/printer paper. We left a wide border to one side so these could have 2 holes punched in them for ease of filing.
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Post by lucian on Nov 21, 2016 18:32:04 GMT
I should have stroked the second image to make clear the wide border to one side. I tried to delete port-pkg-2, without border, but wasn't successful. photo hosting
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Post by Sepiana on Nov 21, 2016 18:32:23 GMT
Maybe what you are after is not to make a 'Picture Package', which is an option of the 'Print' dialog, but a 'Photo Collage', which is in the Create Section and lets you compose a page with freely layed out photos, then save the project for further use? I believe Michel hit the nail on the head; I am agreeing with him. From what you describe, it looks like you were creating a collage using the "Photo Collage" feature.
I remain convinced that in 2015 I was using PSE 11 to create A4 packages of images of all shapes and sizes, which were freely moveable around the page, and it seems worthwhile spending a day or two trying to avoid the straight-jacket Adobe would now have me use and slow me down. See if this will help.
Create a Photo Collage in Photoshop Elements How to use the Photoshop Elements Collage Tool - Adobe Photoshop Elements 11 12 13 14
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Post by Moto on Nov 24, 2016 18:58:21 GMT
My specific problems appear to focus on the Prints window where I find it impossible to get my own template to fill the page; nor can I find a way to drag and drop images, which would move to the centre spot around which I could play musical chairs by dragging and dropping until the template was populated in the way I wanted it. Use the Elements Editor for the template guidelines and placing images. Use the Print window for printer options. 1) "My specific problems appear to focus on the Prints window where I find it impossible to get my own template to fill the page..." Turn off "Crop to Fit" in the print window. Your printer needs to support printing to the edge and the current paper size. If your printer does support edge to edge printing click on advanced settings in Elements printer window to turn on full page printing. 2) "... nor can I find a way to drag and drop images, which would move to the centre spot around which I could play musical chairs by dragging and dropping until the template was populated in the way I wanted it." You do this in the Editor. Turn on the ruler, (view menu), and drag your guide lines. 3) Save your template as a psd or tif file. When you reload the template your guidelines will still be there. 4) If the printer doesn't print edge to edge then place template guidelines at the printer margins in the editor.
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Post by callsign on Nov 26, 2016 15:25:26 GMT
First of all an apology to those who have attempted to help me recently and other viewers I will have misled by my lack of care, clarity and precision when starting this thread; I am sorry to have wasted your time and will try and do better in future.
It is obvious now that, at the start, I should have made it clear that the only reason I used the Photo Package facility in the past was because it was the only way I had found where I could place selected image files, of various dimensions and sizes but the same resolution, on A4 templates, created specially and provided with guides to assist photo placement, and then saved until I was ready to print the results on to A4 photo paper.
These prints were then cut to size and placed into old fashioned photo albums, which I, for one, would rather browse through and think about later. Viewing the images on a screen of any sort has little appeal, it has its uses but never the same intimacy. Fully edited TIFF and JPEG files, and unedited TIFFs of all (or nearly) all scanned images are also available.
It is also my view that what I am creating stands a better chance of a longer life than images stored on discs, of whatever kind, or in clouds etc. If in my old age I was surrounded by family members gifted in the arts and mysteries of computers to whom I could hand on the baton then I would be seeking to delegate much of the work; but I am not, so I do what I can and enjoy the challenge.
To bring things up to date, I have reached the tentative conclusion that what I am looking for in PSE 14 (I don't know about PSE 15) so that I can replicate what I was doing prior to 2016 does not exist and I shall just have to put up with it and find an alternative way of creating prints.
Something else I cannot find is a set of specimen page layouts additional to the pretty useless specimens presented by the Print Window. I believe they used to exist. Is anyone able to help me here, please?
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Post by Sepiana on Dec 10, 2016 5:53:02 GMT
What I want to know now is whether I could load up PSE 11 on my laptop behind PSE 14 or is it something that must be avoided at all costs. My intentions are to prepare the files in PSE 14, move finished copies for printing in PSE 11 to the PC and ensure they would not come back to the laptop that created them before deletion. callsign,
Sorry this question got overlooked.
Each version of Elements is an independent one. You can have multiple versions installed on the same computer. I myself have 7 versions living in harmony on the same computer.
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