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Post by Sepiana on Jan 1, 2017 18:27:12 GMT
BillieJean, this a great idea and it should work. However, I would be very much concerned if someone, who doesn't know his/her way around the Registry, tries this. Make one tiny mistake and it will create havoc with the OS. I am not sure it is worth risking this just because of a program -- Elements. Let's give Adobe a chance! I know they are working on trying to fix this.
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Post by Tpgettys on Jan 1, 2017 19:20:27 GMT
When thinking about this Recent Files list 'problem' I remembered the 'jump lists' in Windows. I have my copies of PSE 13/15 pinned to my task bar and if you right click on either of their icons a jump list appears containing around 12 recent items which if you click on them open up the files in said programme. The links below (for Windows 7 and 10) show how to increase the Jump List limit should you wish to do that by editing the Registry manually. Thanks for sharing this Lillias ! I had never heard of the jump list feature until now. That is a very creative way to address this bug in PSE15. The instructions you posted are well-written and clear, so there really is no danger whatsoever if they are followed.
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Post by Tpgettys on Jan 1, 2017 19:35:38 GMT
I will just have to pay more attention from now on to see if it is happening to me. Sigh, well, I can confirm it is happening to me as well. My recent edits are not showing up in the recent list. I deleted the file suggested and can confirm it is now working again. If you do this, just understand that you are wiping the recently edited files list clean, but since it has stopped working there really is little point in NOT doing it.
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Post by srmoment on Jan 1, 2017 21:55:31 GMT
I tried deleting MachinePrefs.psp as suggested and it worked great, without me having to go back and reset my preferences.
As for reaching the limit of 100 files, it is easy to do if you think about how many files you take on a photo outing - probably at least 100 raw files? When you load these onto your computer, they count towards the '100" marker.
Thanks Tom for following up in the Adobe forum. Hopefully Adobe will fix this.
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Post by Tpgettys on Jan 1, 2017 23:22:55 GMT
Thanks Tom for following up in the Adobe forum. Hopefully Adobe will fix this. You are certainly welcome srmoment ! This bug affects most all of us. I expressed concern that deleting the file may also delete other data and here is the response I got: IMHO, this user is a major sluether!
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Post by Sepiana on Jan 1, 2017 23:53:38 GMT
I expressed concern that deleting the file may also delete other data and here is the response I got: AFIK there are no other data lost besides the list of the opened image files after opening the file "MachinePrefs.psp" again. But I'm firmly of your opinion that the "cure" of such an issue shouldn't be the matter of a user of PSE15 but of the designers at Adobe. And if I may add: I've discovered it by carefully comparing the relevant folders in PSE15 to the folders in PSE13 where there is no issue. After having noticed that this particular file updated in PSE13 and NOT any more in PSE15 I concluded it to be the source of the trouble. IMHO, this user is a major sluether!
Tom, thanks for sharing this!
Does anyone even have any doubts that this is or is not a matter for the Adobe Designing Team? This user is absolutely correct. I totally agree with him/her. As I said earlier -- "Let's give Adobe a chance! I know they are working on trying to fix this". Let's be patient!
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Post by Tpgettys on Jan 2, 2017 0:35:10 GMT
If and when Adobe releases a fix it will be gratefully received, that's for sure! However, as far as I have been able to learn they haven't even acknowledged this bug yet. Meanwhile, my PSE15 is broken today, so the fix given is much appreciated. Like srmoment , I depend on the recently edited feature quite a lot.
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Post by Sepiana on Jan 2, 2017 1:03:56 GMT
If and when Adobe releases a fix it will be gratefully received, that's for sure! However, as far as I have been able to learn they haven't even acknowledged this bug yet. Meanwhile, my PSE15 is broken today, so the fix given is much appreciated. Like srmoment , I depend on the recently edited feature quite a lot.
It has been my experience with Adobe (since Elements 4) that they don't acknowledge a bug until they have enough evidence. Just a few Elements 15 users complaining on different forums won't really help. The best thing is for users experiencing this problem to fill out a report. Then, Adobe will take notice. Numbers talk loud!
www.adobe.com/products/wishform.html
You can't use Elements 15 at all? Is it really broken? Or is just the problem with the Recently Edited feature? I would think one could live without this feature (at least until Adobe releases a patch or at least until the next version of Elements). Don't you have other versions of Elements installed? Elements 14?
Imagine not being able to use the Lasso tool without a lot of workaround. Now . . . that's a PROBLEM. And this happened in an earlier version of Elements (version 10?). The Lasso tool developed the Jumping Lasso Syndrome and it was basically out of order. We had to make do with a workaround created by someone on the Adobe forum until the next version of Elements was released. Adobe recoded this program and the problem is now gone.
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Post by Tpgettys on Jan 2, 2017 1:27:53 GMT
I have already tried that link. It takes me to a page titled Feature Request/Bug Report Form, but after selecting PSE it just dumps me into a forum where this bug is being discussed. It looks like their bug report form is broken as well!
I *really* don't know what point you are trying to make here. Yes, it really is broken. I have to say your dismissal of its significance to me is rather insulting. According to you a broken lasso tool is a *real* problem; hardly, since I don't use it. And Adobe didn't fix it until the next version?
I'll take the fixes that work today, and be grateful. Patiently waiting for the next release is not an option!!!
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Post by Sepiana on Jan 2, 2017 1:46:10 GMT
Did you try the Adobe Feedback forum? Next to using that form, this may be the most direct route to Adobe.
feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/categories/photoshop_family_photoshop_elements
Please, don't take me wrong. I was just trying to understand the meaning of "broken" in your case. I have this problem only in the Organizer and only on one copy of Elements 15. But that copy of Elements works flawlessly otherwise.
My point to bring up that example of the Lasso tool was just to show how Adobe works. That was a more serious problem; the Lasso tool was inoperative unless you used some workaround. I am sure many more users of Elements need this tool for their projects compared to the Recently Edited feature. Yet the problem didn't get fixed until the release of the next Elements version. In between, we had to live with workarounds (including a workaround I myself created and posted on the now-closed EV forum). I am trying to compare the two situations. If Elements 15 is functioning properly except for the Recently Edited feature, I wonder how much Adobe is in a hurry to fix this problem, especially when File>Open and Open With (two possible alternatives) seem to be working just fine.
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Post by Sepiana on Jan 2, 2017 2:11:19 GMT
I have already tried that link. It takes me to a page titled Feature Request/Bug Report Form, but after selecting PSE it just dumps me into a forum where this bug is being discussed. It looks like their bug report form is broken as well! Tom,
I checked the link. There is nothing broken. You are connected to their Photoshop Elements Feedback forum. As a matter of fact, they say that one of the purposes of the Feedback forum is . . . "Report a Problem". See Message from Photoshop Family in my screen shot.
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Post by Tpgettys on Jan 2, 2017 5:08:00 GMT
I checked the link. There is nothing broken. You are connected to their Photoshop Elements Feedback forum. LOL! Yes, that is what I just said! They offer to give you a bug report submission form: It says very clearly, "Use this form". And, for their cash-cow products they really do offer a bug report submission form: But for PSE you just get dumped into a forum where all you can do is commiserate with other disappointed and frustrated users instead of being offered a bug report form.
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Post by michelb on Jan 2, 2017 10:34:44 GMT
Don't waste your time with bug reports: 1) The Elements team members are obviously aware of the issue reported both in the Elements forum and in the feedback one. 2) There was somewhere an explanation about the feedback forum. All posts are read... but few get written 'feedback' from Adobe, such as "Acknowledged" or 'We are working on it" or "fix available in an upcoming update". Especially for Elements . Bug reports would be, as we say, "enfoncer une porte ouverte". That does not mean the Elements team is not working on it. I think you should re-read what Sepiana said about the fixes in between Elements versions. - There is rarely a single bug or issue to correct, generally a single update is issued for several bugs at the same time; I would expect that within a month or so. Other bugs and issues to be corrected are the problems with auto-hide task bar in Windows and other hardware/OS compatibility issues. - Contrary to what some users think, the present issue is probably ignored by 99% of the users. I'd say you don't need the last used file list if you are using either the organizer or Lightroom. And Adobe is able to know the percentage from its anlysis of used features by the users. Yes, the bug must be fixed, no doubt about that. - That problem may be an opportunity to think about your workflow: working with collections/albums/keywords may mean some additional work, but would mean much more powerful tools to manage recent files like in a 'cache' or in 'favorites'. - If you are curious, you'll see that the 'last edit' time is shown in the 'History' panel in the organizer and stored hidden in the catalog. Unfortunately, there is no indexing nor search option for that... Maybe a good idea for a feature request in the same 'feedback' forum ?
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Post by srmoment on Jan 2, 2017 18:10:45 GMT
I respectfully beg to differ with you michelb. I have spent a significant amount of time keying in tags and trying to use keyworks, albumns, and keywords in the past and have found that I end up having problems with them when I upgrade from one version of elements to another, or that they are cumbersome. The organizer is also too slow and I have a fast system. The recently used file list is a simple, quick and effective way to see what I last worked on, and I and others rely on it for our workflow. .....and as I said in my first post here, I am 98% ready to move back to Elements14 .........so it is a big deal to me.
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Post by cats4jan on Jan 2, 2017 19:20:35 GMT
DUH - maybe that's why I never see recently edited stuff there anymore. That and Fat 32 - I don't want to know anymore. Just make these things easy for an old brain to understand.
I ain't the gal I used to be when I started learning this stuff in 1982. I now adhere to KISS
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