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Post by BuckSkin on Feb 8, 2017 2:20:49 GMT
I often have the most annoying situation where I know beyond any doubt that there is no folder or file open in any other program or anywhere else, yet I get an alert telling me that whatever operation I wanted to do cannot be done due to a folder or file being open in another program.
This happens randomly several times each week; either I wish to move or copy a folder to a different location, or I wish to rename the folder and it will not allow me to do so.
It matters not whether I am trying to accomplish this from within some program or another, or doing it directly in Explorer.
I check and recheck and check again and there is nothing open anywhere, yet Windows will not allow me to proceed.
Am I the only one this happens to ?
Is there some way I can fix this ?
Windows just picks a folder at random and decides to not allow me to mess with it.
Thanks for reading.
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Post by Tpgettys on Feb 8, 2017 2:51:02 GMT
I'm sorry you are so frustrated by this; completely understandable though! I have had it happen to me rarely, but nearly always it turned out that the file was in fact connected to some running program.
One thought: I never turn off my computer. Very rarely something goes awry, so that when I launch a program the user-interface doesn't appear, but I see that it is running once I launch the task manager. In these rare situations the solution is to reboot.
I am guessing you are seeing this behavior across several reboots, but wanted to confirm that assumption.
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Post by Sepiana on Feb 8, 2017 3:02:27 GMT
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Post by BuckSkin on Feb 8, 2017 4:13:54 GMT
Thanks, Tom and Sepiana.
I don't know if it has any bearing or not, but it has been days since the machine was shut down or restarted.
I read and reread that link Sepiana provided, plus all of the comments; there are numerous varied solutions; if my problem persists, I will just try them in order until I find the one that works.
For the immediate time being, I am going to see if a restart cures the situation.
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Post by Tpgettys on Feb 8, 2017 4:20:44 GMT
I wish you good luck BuckSkin ; I know well how annoying such behaviors can be!
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Post by Sepiana on Feb 8, 2017 4:24:12 GMT
I read and reread that link Sepiana provided, plus all of the comments; there are numerous varied solutions; if my problem persists, I will just try them in order until I find the one that works. Let us know how it goes. Hopefully one of those suggestions will work. Keeping my fingers crossed!
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Post by BuckSkin on Feb 8, 2017 5:00:16 GMT
Well, something I read in the comments to that link Sepiana provided put an idea in my head to try a little experiment before I tried a restart.
For the last couple years, I have had a simple mechanical ON/OFF switch in the Ethernet line between the modem and the router, thus, with a simple flip of a switch, I can isolate our network from the outside world.
My proposed experiment was to turn OFF the internet and see if anything in the outside world may have been causing the issue.
However, before I did that, I tried renaming the problem folder again and it worked perfectly with no hassle.......go figure; I had been trying off-and-on all evening to rename that silly folder with no success and when I threaten to figure out why --- it works; so, I will have to save my little experiment for the next time.
Anyhow, even though the problem seems to have fixed itself, I went ahead and restarted anyway, just for the fun of it; it has been my observation that these computers are a lot like vehicles --- once you have them running, shut them off at your own peril.....
Thanks for reading.
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Post by Andy on Feb 11, 2017 0:58:54 GMT
Just because you have no programs running on your computer doesn't mean nothing is running. Open Windows Task Manager and you can quickly see how many processes are running. Some of those processes may be keeping files open and hence not allowing you to work with them. Simply waiting can resolved the problem, as the process completes what it was doing with the file and then releases it. A reboot will generally fix the issue.
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Post by BuckSkin on Feb 11, 2017 4:50:59 GMT
I do need to familiarize myself more thoroughly with the task manager; it would probably be shocking for me to know just what all is going on behind the scenes.
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Post by BuckSkin on Mar 2, 2017 10:38:59 GMT
This is getting ridiculous.....
I found a folder that I had misnamed, with a hyphen where I always put an underscore; there was absolutely nothing in any way related to that folder open anywhere in any program, and had not been in days.
I brought up the rename box (F2), fixed the name to suit, and clicked "Okay" and then that hateful "Etc., etc., cannot be done because a folder or a file in it is open in another program" pops up again.
After numerous attempts, I came back to this thread and clicked the link that Sepiana provided, bound and determined to fix this once and for all.
I found that check-box that it said to un-check and it was already unchecked.
I tried all of the other solutions offered in the comments section.
I thought I may have been onto something when I read of several being able to fix the problem by finding and stopping "WSearch" in the task manager; I opened the task manager and did find "WSearch"; but, when I right-clicked it and selected "Stop", it always gave me a warning that the process could not be stopped and my request was denied.
No matter what I tried, I could not rename that silly folder.
I restarted and then was able to rename the folder on the first attempt.
This annoyance really slows up production, as all open programs must be shut down and then re-launched.
From what I gather, there does not seem to be a genuine fix for this problem.
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Post by Major Major on Mar 2, 2017 17:03:33 GMT
There's a free PC utility called Unlocker that's made for this situation. The problem is, it doesn't always work. The only sure-fire way I've found to solve it (and a variety of other computer glitches) is to restart. And you're right, it is a major pain in the butt.
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Post by BuckSkin on Jul 17, 2017 11:50:54 GMT
Well........, I may have stumbled upon at least one of the culprits that is causing me all this grief.
A little bird pecked me in the head and told me that, at least in most instances, whenever it would refuse to let me rename a folder (and sometimes a file), that folder just happened to be the last place I had saved anything to from Elements.
Just to check this out further, I picked a random folder, saved an image to that folder, closed the image, and then attempted to rename the folder; it would not allow the folder to be renamed. I went back into Elements, saved a random file from Elements to a different folder, and was instantly able to rename or do whatever to the first folder that it had just refused to allow. I tried this several times with different folders and each time I saved something from Elements to a folder, it would not allow any further manipulation of that folder until I saved something to somewhere else.
Although a bit annoying, it is a whole lot less aggravating to just save a file to somewhere else and then be able to proceed with my work, than to have to close half-a-dozen open programs, restart the machine, and then try to remember just where I was at and what I was doing after a restart.
I didn't think to see what would happen if I just closed Elements to see if that eliminated the problem; I will try to remember to try that the next time.
Thanks for reading and I hope these confusing situations I keep getting into help others who may find themselves in a similar situation.
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Post by Peterj on Jul 17, 2017 15:10:31 GMT
Well........, I may have stumbled upon at least one of the culprits that is causing me all this grief. A little bird pecked me in the head and told me that, at least in most instances, whenever it would refuse to let me rename a folder (and sometimes a file), that folder just happened to be the last place I had saved anything to from Elements. Just to check this out further, I picked a random folder, saved an image to that folder, closed the image, and then attempted to rename the folder; it would not allow the folder to be renamed. I went back into Elements, saved a random file from Elements to a different folder, and was instantly able to rename or do whatever to the first folder that it had just refused to allow. I tried this several times with different folders and each time I saved something from Elements to a folder, it would not allow any further manipulation of that folder until I saved something to somewhere else. Although a bit annoying, it is a whole lot less aggravating to just save a file to somewhere else and then be able to proceed with my work, than to have to close half-a-dozen open programs, restart the machine, and then try to remember just where I was at and what I was doing after a restart. I didn't think to see what would happen if I just closed Elements to see if that eliminated the problem; I will try to remember to try that the next time. Thanks for reading and I hope these confusing situations I keep getting into help others who may find themselves in a similar situation. I've noticed whenever my computer remains on overnight this situation pops up. I generally shut my computer down nightly, and when I forget I do a restart the next morning.
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Post by BuckSkin on Aug 6, 2017 0:01:19 GMT
In case anyone else stumbles across this thread, seeking a solution to the situation, I am going to confirm that Elements is indeed the culprit causing my frustrations.
At first it seemed so random, until I finally got to the bottom of things; whichever folder I have last saved something to from Elements, regardless of whether it was five minutes ago or last week, I am unable to rename, delete, or move that folder until I save a file from Elements to a different folder.
Now, whenever I am not allowed to manipulate a folder, I just go into Elements, create a blank file, and then save it to a different folder; once this is done, this releases the "lock" and I can then go ahead with whatever I was trying to do.
I just delete the blank file.
Surely I am not the only one who has run against this.
Thanks for reading.
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