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Post by whippet on Apr 18, 2017 20:27:10 GMT
I came across a twirl I did recently. I decided to try and do something with it, to make it completely different. I wanted to put a frame round it too, but couldn't do it. Every time I tried, I just got a white screen with a frame. I then couldn't find the picture anywhere. Would this idea work - putting different styles together. Or should I forget the idea? Images from Pixabay
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Post by cats4jan on Apr 19, 2017 1:42:55 GMT
Is the frame already made? If so, is it a jpg?
You need a frame that is in png format - where they have preserved the transparency in the center of the frame so that the photo can show through the "hole" - the center of the frame.
If you put a frame in jpg format on top of a photo, the solid center of the frame will cover up your photo. Transparency cannot be maintained when an item is in jpg format.
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Post by Sepiana on Apr 19, 2017 3:37:53 GMT
You need a frame that is in png format - where they have preserved the transparency in the center of the frame so that the photo can show through the "hole" - the center of the frame. If you put a frame in jpg format on top of a photo, the solid center of the frame will cover up your photo. Transparency cannot be maintained when an item is in jpg format.
If all you have is a frame in the .jpg format, . . . you can use this workaround.
1. Unlock the background layer. 2. Activate the Magic Wand tool. Click on the white area within the frame to select it. 3. Press the Delete key. 4. Save your file in a format which supports background transparency such as .psd, .png, .tiff.
To use the frame . . .
1. Copy/paste your photo onto the frame layer. Or use the File>Place command. 2. Drag the photo layer under the frame layer. 3. Use Free Transform (Ctrl/Cmmd-T) to reposition/resize the photo layer if necessary. (No need to create a clipping mask.)
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Post by whippet on Apr 19, 2017 19:45:28 GMT
Thank you both for the information. The frames I was trying to use, are on PE 11.
I also thought of a border round the picture. I tried Rectangular marquee tool. Then I selected inverse, so I had two rows of marching ants. Then I tried to flood fill. But all of the picture changed colour - instead of just the area inside the marching ants. What I also wanted to know, was if you think a made up image like a twirl is compatible with 'real' images - like those I have put on, or things like buildings etc.
I posted this topic so others could have a go, and to find out if/where I am going wrong with the idea.
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Post by Sepiana on Apr 19, 2017 21:51:47 GMT
I also thought of a border round the picture. I tried Rectangular marquee tool. Then I selected inverse, so I had two rows of marching ants. Then I tried to flood fill. But all of the picture changed colour - instead of just the area inside the marching ants.
Let's try a very simple border/frame, one made with a stroke. You are going to place the stroke on its own layer. This will allow you to apply effects just to the stroke.
1. Open your image.
2. In the Layers panel click on the "Create a new layer" icon. (Or you can go to Layer>New>Layer.)
3. Select>All (Ctrl-A, Cmmd-A on a Mac). You will see marching ants around your image.
4. Go to Edit>Stroke (Outline) Selection. In the dialog box enter the stroke width and color of your choice. For Location select Inside.
5. Select>Deselect (Ctrl-D, Cmmd-D on a Mac).
6. At this point you have a very basic border/frame around your image. If you want you can add a Bevel layer style to the stroke to make it look more like a "real" frame (Effects>Styles).
NOTE:
The advantage of having the stroke on its own layer is that it gives you more flexibility in editing. You can change its color, width; apply a bevel, texture, etc. If you decide you don't want the stroke, just delete this layer.
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Post by cats4jan on Apr 20, 2017 8:42:12 GMT
Whippet - you can frame any layer. You can place a frame anywhere on your project. The problem you are having is that you are using frames that come with PSE. They tend to have a certain way they need to be used. You will have more success if a frame comes from a different source, is in png format. I'm going to play with PSE frames and see if they can be exported to use by themselves. I seldom use the resources in PSE because of their particular usage needs so I need to work with them to refresh myself on how they work. I will get back to you. UPDATE When I experimented, I learned the frame and photo become one - the adjustments you make to the photo when first placing it with the frame are the only time you can adjust it - after that, they become one - almost like simplifying the frame/photo layers to become one. The frame could be placed on a transparent background, the center deleted like Sepiana suggested above - then saved as a png - to be used independently, but that sounds like a lot of work for frames that are pretty mediocre. Make your own frame - using the outline/stroke way Sepiana suggested, or make a frame from just about anything you want by cutting the center from a block of color/background paper/another photo, etc. If you want an exact fit for a specific photo, make a selection in the exact shape of your photo,, then cut out the center as described in Sepiana's post. If too much of your photo is covered, resize your photo or resize your frame. Add a bevel style to make your frame look more like a real frame. (I used scalloped bevel) Because your frame and photo are on their own layers, you can move the photo or frame independently.
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Post by Sepiana on Apr 20, 2017 14:15:26 GMT
You will have more success if a frame comes from a different source, is in png format. You don't have to limit yourself to using frames in the .png format. Success can also be achieved with frames in the .psd and in the .tiff format (and they are widely available).
Here is a good place to start looking for frames. -- Borders, Edges, and Frames
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