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Post by Sepiana on Apr 23, 2018 14:45:32 GMT
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I've chosen to do this photobook in five topics: Places, Travel, Events, Pets, People. Most likely there will be several books to accomplish this. I have been doing the File Save As for each photo and am keeping the original images from each source (slides, photo album, digital) together. But it occurred to me that I ought to be putting a keyword on each image as to which of the five categories it belongs in. I'm wondering if I can then call up all the images from say, a bunch of slides I scanned, as to the "Events" category. It seems to me that would be a far more efficient way to accomplish the gathering together of items that belong in each category. Does that make sense to do it that way?
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Post by Sepiana on Apr 23, 2018 14:56:21 GMT
Hi Pat. No problem  I have never used the Events tag in the Organiser. I have always just used the Keywords tag to created categories and subcategories for my photos. What you are suggesting is the right general direction and so one approach could be something like this: 1. Create a new Keyword category for each of your 5 topics Places, Travel, Events, Pets, People. You create a new Keyword category by clicking the + icon next to Keyword as in the screenshot below 
2. Then for each of the 5 categories you can create as many levels of subcategories as you like based on how you want to catalogue all the images. The subcategories could be events, dates, sources of the image etc etc etc. It will be worthwhile, if you haven't already done so, to spend a bit of time thinking about the subcategories you would like. But you will be able to later on move categories and/or subcategories to new parent categories or subcategories. In the Organiser you can also assign multiple tags to a single image. So for example, you might have 10 images catalogued under Travel->Country1->date1 with 6 of the images coming from scanned slides and 4 coming from scanned prints and 6 images in Travel->Country2->date2 with 4 being from slides and 2 from prints. You could then also create additional keyword categories called Slides and Prints and assign the appropriate Slides or Prints categoriy to each image in Travel->Country1->date1 and Travel->Country2->date2. So at any time then, you will have the ability to select in the Organiser all the images that were originally slides or prints regardless of what other specific category (like Travel->Country1->date1) is also assigned to each image. So if you clicked the Slides checkbox in the Organiser, it will display the 10 (6+4) images originally coming from slides in both Travel->Country1->date1 and Travel->Country2->date2. So without knowing exactly what images you have, the above is just a general description of one approach you could take to catalogue your images. I hope the above makes sense. |
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Post by Sepiana on Apr 23, 2018 15:52:16 GMT
But it occurred to me that I ought to be putting a keyword on each image as to which of the five categories it belongs in. I'm wondering if I can then call up all the images from say, a bunch of slides I scanned, as to the "Events" category. It seems to me that would be a far more efficient way to accomplish the gathering together of items that belong in each category. Does that make sense to do it that way?
Pat, it should work. It would help your workflow.
Just a note of caution, . . . in case you decide to upgrade to PSE 2018 while this project is going on. There have been reports on the Adobe forums that People tags are not carrying over to this version. Fortunately, the problem doesn't seem to extend to Keyword tags. Using Keyword tags will be a safe way to go.
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Post by frizzylee on Apr 24, 2018 15:33:10 GMT
Hello Bailey and Sepiana I have printed out what you wrote and am going to sit with PSE14 Organizer and think this through. What you write, Bailey, sounds like this very well may be the answer to my prayers. I wonder if the title of that one "Book," EVENTS, is going to cause a problem as a keyword. Maybe not. Not sure, tho. And, as things have moved along, I have created subcategories within each category. It just naturally falls into place that way. It quickly became apparent that I couldn't go on doing things the way I am doing them. That is, manually moving each and every photo into place. It was overwhelming. I needed a better system. Which is where I am at now. Keywords. I've posted a photo of a small portion of some subcategories within the EVENTS category. The folder at the left is the subcategory and all the photos out to the right are the photos. This gives me hives looking at it because I already have way more photos than can be contained within this system-if it can be called that. (Please understand all photos that appear currently are B List. For me that means I like them all but will cull them for the very best to arrive at the A List which makes the cut to the book.) And, Sepiana, I definitely will not be changing to PSE18 while doing this project. Too many things could potentially go wrong doing that, I think. Wish I could just sit with this all day each day, but life goes on. Probably a good thing, eh? Many thanks. I will let you know what happens. Pat  |
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Post by Bailey on Apr 25, 2018 4:28:43 GMT
Hi Pat, ... What you write, Bailey, sounds like this very well may be the answer to my prayers. I wonder if the title of that one "Book," EVENTS, is going to cause a problem as a keyword. Maybe not. Not sure, tho. Having a keyword set to the value "EVENTS" shouldn't cause a problem or cause any sort of conflict with the PSE EVENTS tab. The keyword values are simply stored as values in rows of data in a column in a table in the Organiser database.
.. And, as things have moved along, I have created subcategories within each category. It just naturally falls into place that way. It quickly became apparent that I couldn't go on doing things the way I am doing them. That is, manually moving each and every photo into place. It was overwhelming. I needed a better system. Which is where I am at now. Keywords. ... One way to help "design" the category and sub category(s) you will need is to think of the catalogue being similar to a family tree structure with stems and branches. If you assign keyword(s) to a photo as you save it, it will be easier to build the catalogue as you go along. But remember, if you need to, you can easily move/relocate branches of keyword categories or individual keyword categories to new parent keywords any time you like as you build the catalogue.
... (Please understand all photos that appear currently are B List. For me that means I like them all but will cull them for the very best to arrive at the A List which makes the cut to the book.) ... In case you are not aware, by right-clicking a photo in the Organiser and then selecting Ratings from the context menu you can assign up to a 5 star rating to each photo. For example, I assign 5 stars to definite keepers and 3 or 4 stars to "maybes" and 0 stars to throw aways. You can then filter the display of photos by star rating by using the Ratings selection bar in the top right hand of the Organiser (PSE 14) and delete unwanted photos in one go. |
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Post by Sepiana on Apr 25, 2018 4:35:35 GMT
And, as things have moved along, I have created subcategories within each category. It just naturally falls into place that way. It quickly became apparent that I couldn't go on doing things the way I am doing them. That is, manually moving each and every photo into place. It was overwhelming. I needed a better system. Which is where I am at now. Keywords. And, Sepiana, I definitely will not be changing to PSE18 while doing this project. Too many things could potentially go wrong doing that, I think. Many thanks. I will let you know what happens. Pat Pat, you are most welcome!
Even if you stay with PSE 14, using Keyword tags (instead of People, Place and Events tags) seems to be the way to go. I came across the thread below and thought you would be interested in the input by Michel B, Organizer guru.
Keyword Tags vs Event Tags
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I've chosen to do this photobook in five topics: Places, Travel, Events, Pets, People. Most likely there will be several books to accomplish this. I have been doing the File Save As for each photo and am keeping the original images from each source (slides, photo album, digital) together. But it occurred to me that I ought to be putting a keyword on each image as to which of the five categories it belongs in. I'm wondering if I can then call up all the images from say, a bunch of slides I scanned, as to the "Events" category. It seems to me that would be a far more efficient way to accomplish the gathering together of items that belong in each category.
