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Post by hmca on Apr 26, 2018 18:34:39 GMT
There is plenty of fog in our area recently. While I always like seeing other people's foggy images I am always at a loss when it comes to trying to edit my own. Would like some suggestions for this photo and any hints for the next time I go out to shoot. u.cubeupload.com/HMCA/F8A4037.jpg |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2018 18:59:56 GMT
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Post by hmca on Apr 26, 2018 19:34:56 GMT
Thanks, Simone. Did a quick read of the two articles and will watch the video later.
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Post by Bailey on Apr 27, 2018 5:25:26 GMT
There is plenty of fog in our area recently. While I always like seeing other people's foggy images I am always at a loss when it comes to trying to edit my own. Would like some suggestions for this photo and any hints for the next time I go out to shoot.
Hi hmca,
Just looking quickly at your photo it appears you have no true black in the image. If you look at the histogram I'm pretty sure it will confirm this.
On my screen a little too much detail is lost due to the fog for my liking. I am using a calibrated screen so how the image looks on my screen might not be exactly the same as what you are seeing on your screen. The colours look a little dull on my screen as well which is due to the fog, but again the colours might look different on other screens.
As a basic starting point I would use a Levels Adjustment Layer to set the black point. Then I would have a look at setting the grey point. I think those 2 adjustments will most likely greatly improve the tonal range of the image. But working on the RAW file would be preferable to a jpeg. But if all I had was the jpeg, I would play with the Levels and Hue/Saturation Adjustment layers to maximise the tonal range and saturation whilst still keeping the scene realistic. That's a judgement call on your part and as I mentioned before, what you are seeing on your screen might not be exactly the same as what I and others are seeing on theirs (due to different screen settings on peoples' devices/computers).
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Post by hmca on Apr 27, 2018 21:10:31 GMT
Simone....the links you provided will have me using a tripod and trying for a slower shutter speed next time out. This wasn't a planned shooting but was taken on the way home the other night when fog was everywhere. Thank you. Bailey, in the beginning I was trying everything with this image. I tried your suggestion above but in the end decided I wanted a warmer lighter tonality for this image. A friend suggested to crop in on the left to provide more negative space. I am happy with the results..... u.cubeupload.com/HMCA/F8A4036Finaledcroppe.jpg |
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Post by ritage on Apr 27, 2018 21:42:03 GMT
Helen, I like your solution, but FWIW if you ever simply want to get rid of fog, PSE 14 Enhance>Auto Haze Removal does an amazing job.
Rita
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Post by fotofrank on Apr 27, 2018 21:52:24 GMT
Helen - Great capture and great results.
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Post by Sydney on Apr 28, 2018 0:03:45 GMT
Love the result of your friend's suggestion - beautiful!
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Post by hmca on Apr 28, 2018 0:19:38 GMT
Thanks, for the likes and comments. Rita....in this case I was interested in preserving the foggy atmosphere. But I do think the dehaze feature is wonderful when needed.
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Post by Bailey on Apr 28, 2018 4:03:16 GMT
... Bailey, in the beginning I was trying everything with this image. I tried your suggestion above but in the end decided I wanted a warmer lighter tonality for this image. A friend suggested to crop in on the left to provide more negative space. I am happy with the results..... Hi hmca, Yes, the crop is a good idea. I don't know what you did to edit the photo but the tonal range has definitely been improved. As I suggested earlier, using the Levels Adjustment Layer is the tool I use. To make a photo warmer or cooler you can use the warming/cooling filters in the Photo Filter adjustment layer and/or hue/saturation adjustment layer.
... Would like some suggestions for this photo and any hints for the next time I go out to shoot. I shoot in manual mode as much as possible. If you want a specific shutter speed then shutter priority is the best way to go. But in whatever mode I am using I try to find an 18% grey in the scene and spot meter it. The reason being is that all cameras will try to convert the light coming into them to an 18% grey. If you meter 18% grey in the first place you're much more likely to have the correct exposure on the first shot. Also, if someone meters a predominantly light or whitish scene (snow) and takes the shot, it will most likely appear a little dark because the camera will try to convert the scene to 18% grey. That is why in a light coloured scene you will more often than not have to add some positive exposure compensation. The reverse applies when photographing a scene with a lot of black or dark colours. So with a fog scene being a light coloured scene generally, I suspect in most cases you will need to increase the exposure in camera to get the full tonal range in the image. The histogram is the best way I know to evaluate tonal range and is my best friend when shooting. You didn't mention if you edited the RAW or jpeg image (although the posted image is probably jpeg). Whether people shoot in RAW or jpeg is largely a personal preference. Fwiw, I always shoot RAW format and do all my initial tonal, exposure, noise reduction in ACR and then any fine or localised (using masks) editing in PSE. You definitely have much, much more control and flexibility when editing RAW files compared to jpegs. |
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Post by alexr on Apr 28, 2018 11:47:27 GMT
It is interesting, Helen, I had a think about any suggestions I could make, including cropping the bush off the left, and I didn't think it helped because it didn't so much feel like negative space, but unfinished and trailing off into nothingness. So I didn't offer it. But by putting a vignette on you solve that as this confines and concentrates the view, and also adds some interest into the sky. The slightly warmer colours and very slight tightening of the top and bottom also help. The resultant image is excellent with its muted colour palette and slow fade into the fog from front to back.
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Post by hmca on Apr 28, 2018 13:39:39 GMT
Thanks, Alex. It actually took me quite awhile to finally come to the final edit. If it wasn't for the help of a friend off-line, I never would have gotten there.
Oh and Bailey, I always shoot in RAW.
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Post by blackmutt on Apr 28, 2018 23:19:59 GMT
Very nice job Helen. What an improvement!
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Post by hmca on Apr 29, 2018 0:49:45 GMT
Thanks, Judy!
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