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Post by Bailey on May 22, 2018 9:50:15 GMT
Although I have mentioned in other threads that this is one of the better forums I post on, one aspect I notice here that imho is tolerated far too much is fluff posts. What are fluff posts I hear some ask...... For anyone who is not sure what a fluff post is, this is an extract from the sitepoint forums and how they deal with it. Source: www.sitepoint.com/community/t/fluff-posting-what-is-it-and-how-do-we-deal-with-it/54533At this stage I don't think this forum needs to consider the same penalties (or maybe they do ) but a reduction in fluff posts might actually encourage more members to actually log on and contribute. Since I have joined PSE&M, I notice that the average daily number of members logging on has been stuck in the 30-40 range. There must be a reason or reasons why it isn't growing. Anyway, just some food for thought and discussion
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Post by blackmutt on May 22, 2018 10:07:12 GMT
No they are not a concern im my opinion! What do you or any one else care if someone wants to just post a comment that simply states they like the post?? It isnt all about a critique.
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Post by Bailey on May 22, 2018 10:21:01 GMT
Thank you for your opinion blackmutt.
I guess if someone posted why they liked a post so that the information might possibly help/teach/encourage etc someone then that is obviously a positive post.
But on the other hand if someone just wants to post "Nice post" or words to that effect and nothing else relevant to the thread then I don't see why they can't say that in a PM. This type of post is much less likely to be of any help or interest to me or anyone in the public forum imho.
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Post by Lillias on May 22, 2018 10:41:22 GMT
Never heard the term before but no, I don’t think they are a concern at all on PSE&M.
I may be wrong but as far as total membership and the number of those who actually participate on a regular basis goes I’d say it’s got more to do with people who join the site to ask one specific question and when they get the answer to that question that’s the last you see or hear from them unless or until they have another question they need an answer to.
People come in all flavours, varieties and abilities and whether we like that or not it has to be recognised. You appear to be someone who likes to go more in depth to things Bailey and that's admirable but not everyone does. A quick ‘nice work’ or ‘thanks for sharing’ might be all that some people feel able to do and I for one am always grateful that anyone makes a comment at all on my work.
I have reached the age when I am really learning the truth of the adage ‘life is too short’. Can I say this to you lovingly and in no way judgementally as you have only ever been polite and courteous in your dealings with me – I think you need to relax a bit and maybe throw a bit of slack to those who don’t come up to your standards. It’s a forum not life and death.
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Post by Bailey on May 22, 2018 10:56:43 GMT
Thank you for your thoughts BillieJean, I get the point that you and blackmutt are making regarding some members just wanting to say a quick "nice post" or similar for whatever reason. But what I do not understand is why members making such simple posts, that are very unlikely to be of any help to anyone, are reluctant to make them in a PM and insist on making them in the public forums where they don't really contribute to the purpose of the thread. Maybe I'm just missing something . But this isn't a huge issue. I just wanted to throw the question out there to see what people think. If members are happy with the status quo, I am happy to go with the flow. If nothing else, it will make posting easy as I won't have to think as much about how relevant the content is to anyone reading the thread. On other forums it's bigger issue than here for various reasons I guess.
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Post by blackmutt on May 22, 2018 12:42:45 GMT
The point you are missing is that if I like the photo/artwork I can just say that. It doesn't need to say why! Sure there are times when I may have done something differently, but what is the point of saying "well if you would have stood there or waited for different light" - when it was taken while traveling and there was only one opportunity. I don't profess to be any kind of expert and am not going to talk like I am. Why do I have to go into some long winded opinion? I will be very blunt here - a single photo was chosen for IOW and somehow you turned it into something negative and had to once again expound your long winded opinion and thoughts which always seem to be - let's change this or that or that isn't how they do it else where and in a very negative tone. I personally don't care how it's done on other forums. Srmoment only chose one photo, so what. Maybe there will be a week when I judge and I don't select any because none stood out for me. Why don't you post your photos I ask? We are adults - we don't need "participation awards" so why do you feel everyone needs acknowledgement. I will not respond to any more of your comments as you have left a very sour taste. Admins you may delete this post if you see fit.
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Post by whippet on May 22, 2018 14:56:57 GMT
Personally, I think this forum strikes a happy medium. I come here to learn, and to enjoy doing so at the same time. Anywhere which is deadly serious and technical, would be of no use to me at all. I think it a great idea to have the thumbs up icon. I like to show my appreciation. Sometimes I have even sent a pm to someone in response to a posted image which I think is exceptional - rather than post a reply when I don't have technical know how. I probably have fluff between my ears instead of a brain. But, that is me, and I am too old to change now.
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Post by ritage on May 22, 2018 15:09:32 GMT
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Post by Bailey on May 22, 2018 21:03:48 GMT
The point you are missing is that if I like the photo/artwork I can just say that. It doesn't need to say why! ... I don't think I have missed the point at all. I get what you and BillieJean said. What I was saying is that it's perfectly ok to just say "Nice post" but why does it have to be in the public forum and not as a PM or just use the "Like" button as whippet below mentions in her post. A "fluff post" triggers a "New" flag in the list of New Posts and it could be frustrating to some to go in and have a look at the new post in the thread to then only see "Nice post" or whatever. Using the "Like" button does not trigger a "New" flag. Personally, I think this forum strikes a happy medium. I come here to learn, and to enjoy doing so at the same time. Anywhere which is deadly serious and technical, would be of no use to me at all. I think it a great idea to have the thumbs up icon. I like to show my appreciation. Sometimes I have even sent a pm to someone in response to a posted image which I think is exceptional - rather than post a reply when I don't have technical know how. I probably have fluff between my ears instead of a brain. But, that is me, and I am too old to change now. I threw the question out there to see what people think and I can see that most members are probably happy with the status quo, so this thread has served its purpose. As I mentioned earlier, I am happy to go with the flow so we can move on now .
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Post by Andy on May 22, 2018 22:43:53 GMT
For the benefit of our members, the OP's quote is taken largely out of context. He fails to include the critical first lines of the referenced page:
"Our forums have been experiencing increased levels of members joining the community with the sole intent of building back links and promotion of their signature links. These signature spammers do nothing but clutter our forums with loads of low-quality unwanted posts and is something we want to see the end of."
This is something we actively strive to avoid. We do not allow members to post just so they can increase traffic to their website. This happens all the time and thanks to the dedication and diligence of our admins, most of you never see the posts before they are deleted.
We aren't discussing life-altering stuff here. If you want to post and say "Nice photo", "Great work" - go right ahead. We are happy you are here and contributing.
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Post by PeteB on May 23, 2018 12:38:44 GMT
Andy Very interesting post ... thanks
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