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Post by Bailey on Sept 11, 2018 9:33:42 GMT
Hi again Clive ... Suggestions regarding panos in 2018 are welcome. ...  (This image is not downloaded and reposted. It is hot-linked from the image's url in the op.) I find it hard to believe that what you experienced in PSE 2018 as shown in your image on the right is the norm and if it was it would severely deter me from upgrading from PSE 14. So I did a bit of reading up on Photomerge Panorama and found this Adobe Help page on Photomerge.Adobe Help says: Your image on the right has ~90% overlap horizontally and ~60% vertically. I suspect this is at least a contributing factor to the blending issues in the merged image. Fwiw, I normally shoot photos for panoramas in portrait orientation (to get maximum resolution in the stitched image) and on each subsequent shot I place what was on the right edge of the previous frame roughly in the centre of the current frame which gives me ~50% overlap. I have never had any blending issues with Photomerge Panorama in PSE 14 and I hope I don't if/when I choose to upgrade to whatever the latest version is at the time  |
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Post by pontiac1940 on Sept 11, 2018 12:31:30 GMT
I quite often break the rules and shoot panos Hand-held in Aperture priority where there's a significant exposure difference between one end and the other and ICE seems to handle it just fine. Tony, that's big deal and I'll give it a try sometime. Thanks. I took a sunset pano last night and covered maybe 120° ... needless to say the part farthest from the sunset was very dark. Will give that a go in ICE. Thanks. Bailey, shooting in portrait is a excellent for many panos and it is a good suggestion for folks to try. I've taken panos with a telephoto from far back (say, of a building) which results in less distortion than shooting up close. " I suspect this is at least a contributing factor to the blending issues in the merged image." But it worked in 11 but not 2018. I'll try Sepiana's work around soon. Thanks to all for your suggestions. Good chat here. Clive |
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Post by Bailey on Sept 11, 2018 12:44:15 GMT
... But it worked in 11 but not 2018. I'll try Sepiana's work around soon. ... No problem Clive but the guide lines for overlapping and/or the stitching "engine" might have been significantly different back in v11. Maybe improvements in some aspects of the stitching engine since v11 has resulted in the blending of images now being more fussy regarding the amount of overlap? Either way, your 2 images are way outside the current overlapping guide lines for PSE 2018 which doesn't mean all images that have much more overlap than is suggested will be problematic, but the probability that they will be is much higher than if you stick to the guide lines. Anyway, see how you go running PSE as administrator. You might be lucky and it solves your blending issue. |
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Post by pontiac1940 on Sept 12, 2018 17:37:29 GMT
Try this.
- Run PSE 2018 as administrator. - Create your panorama. - If you see no problems, close PSE 2018. - Open PSE 2018 but this time do it as a standard user. - Create your panorama.
If the problem persists, try deleting the Preferences file. Sepiana, you are my idol!  Opening as admin did nothing. So closed and re-opened normally and then reset the preferences, closed PSE 2018 and re-opened normally. Then ran the pano process again and voila! Clean this time. Thanks to all for input. Thank you Sepiana!Clive  |
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Post by Sepiana on Sept 14, 2018 5:11:02 GMT
Sepiana, you are my idol! Opening as admin did nothing. So closed and re-opened normally and then reset the preferences, closed PSE 2018 and re-opened normally. Then ran the pano process again and voila! Clean this time. Thanks to all for input. Thank you Sepiana!Clive Clive, you are most welcome! I will share the credit with the Adobe "people". They were the ones who pointed at the two possible culprits -- permission levels or a corrupted Preferences file. Also, you kept mentioning that panorama stitching worked in PSE 11. This helped target the troubleshooting.
As a side note, . . .
From the discussions on the Adobe forums, it is my understanding that Adobe made no changes concerning the image overlapping guidelines when creating a panorama. They are still the same as for PSE 11. What they did was to enhance the functionality and interface of the Photomerge panorama composition in PSE 14.
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Post by Bailey on Sept 14, 2018 5:16:31 GMT
... Thanks to all for input. ... No problem. I am very glad you sorted it out Clive It alleviates my concerns about upgrading from PSE 14 if your experiences described in this thread were the norm for PSE 2018. |
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Post by Sepiana on Sept 14, 2018 5:53:14 GMT
Just adding some clarification for users of PSE 2018 . . .
The problem described by Clive in his OP is not the norm for this version. The root of the problem was a damaged/corrupted Preferences file; this can happen in any PSE version. According to the Help file, . . .
This solved the problem.
. . . reset the preferences, closed PSE 2018 and re-opened normally. Then ran the pano process again and voila! Clean this time. |
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Post by Bailey on Sept 14, 2018 6:02:11 GMT
Just adding some clarification for users of PSE 2018 . . .
Thanks Sepiana. I will now be upgrading to the next version coming out soon |
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Post by michelb on Sept 14, 2018 6:21:23 GMT
Just adding some clarification for users of PSE 2018 . . .
The problem described by Clive in his OP is not the norm for this version. The root of the problem was a damaged/corrupted Preferences file; this can happen in any PSE version. According to the Help file, . . .
This solved the problem.
Thanks Sepiana. I will now be upgrading to PSE 2018 soon PSE2019 should be available within one month if history repeats istself. No risk in trying now the free trial version of PSE2018 which is valid for 30 days. On the other hand if you buy PSE2018 now, chances are that you'll be in the situation where you can ask for a free upgrade to PSE2019.
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Post by Bailey on Sept 14, 2018 6:26:05 GMT
Thank you michelb
I actually edited my post before your post to reflect that.
Hopefully there will be additional adjustment layers in the next version but I am not getting my hopes up 
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Post by michelb on Sept 14, 2018 6:41:26 GMT
Thank you michelb
I actually edited my post before your post to reflect that.
Hopefully there will be additional adjustment layers in the next version but I am not getting my hopes up
Just curious: Which other adjustment layers would you need most? We often can find a solution with Elements+ or editing in ACR (or both since you have the option in Elements+ to edit individual layers in ACR or with Raw corrections).
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Post by Bailey on Sept 14, 2018 7:08:21 GMT
Hi again michelb,
There aren't any I really "need" because I do have Elements+ installed so I can use Curves and the other tonal adjustment layers from there but they are not easily editable after you have made the initial adjustments with their sliders. And I do all my initial raw file edits in ACR.
For me, it's more of a convenience thing and a "nice-to-have" as opposed to a "must-have" if there were more adjustment layers available under the Add Adjustment Layers icon.
I know we can and I sometimes do move images back and forth between the PSE editor and ACR, so I can do everything I need to do to edit images but, as you are aware, there are a few more clicks involved this way as opposed to the convenience of having adjustment layers available at your finger tips within the PSE editor.
It's not really a big deal as I normally upgrade my PSE and PRE as a bundle every 3rd or 4th version to avoid falling too far behind.
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Post by HappyScot on Sept 17, 2018 19:49:52 GMT
So glad someone else is having problems with stitching in 2018 version. I thought it was just me!
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Post by pontiac1940 on Sept 18, 2018 1:53:01 GMT
So glad someone else is having problems with stitching in 2018 version. I thought it was just me! HappyScot Hope you can sort it out. With Sepiana's help, it seems to work now. " reset the preferences, closed PSE 2018 and re-opened normally. Then ran the pano process again and voila! Clean this time. " Not used it for a few days and have some pano shots to stitch...fingers crossed it will still work okay. Clive |
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