Upgraded from Elements 11 to 14

jonesy
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Upgraded from Elements 11 to 14 Oct 22, 2018 20:30:08 GMT

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Post by jonesy on Oct 22, 2018 20:30:08 GMT

I have just upgraded my computer to one that will run a copy of Elements 14 (I bought it a couple of years ago).

I had been running elements 11 before that and had no issues.

I created a new catalogue as my original one wasnt really organised, but now when I try to allocate places to images I get a grey screen instead of a map.

A second issue I have is the ratings. I tend to rate the ones I want to edit as 5* and then remove the "*"s when I have edited them. When I try to remove the "*"s I now get a non-match icon at the top left of the image and version set icon in the top right corner. I cannot expand the version set like I could on Elements 11. Am I doing something wrong in version 14?

Any help and advice would be much appreciated.

Nikon D800 & the "trinity"
Olympus E-M10 MkII 14-42, 40-150 (travel kit)
Elements 14
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hmca Administrator Posts: 14,139 Open to constructive criticism of photos: Yes	Upgraded from Elements 11 to 14 Oct 24, 2018 16:04:38 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by hmca on Oct 24, 2018 16:04:38 GMT Sorry I am not able to help you with this jonesy but I am bringing it up to the top in hopes that one of our members might be able to address your issue.
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Upgraded from Elements 11 to 14 Oct 24, 2018 16:23:12 GMT jonesy likes this

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Post by michelb on Oct 24, 2018 16:23:12 GMT

Oct 22, 2018 20:30:08 GMT jonesy said:

I have just upgraded my computer to one that will run a copy of Elements 14 (I bought it a couple of years ago).

I had been running elements 11 before that and had no issues.

I created a new catalogue as my original one wasnt really organised, but now when I try to allocate places to images I get a grey screen instead of a map.

A second issue I have is the ratings. I tend to rate the ones I want to edit as 5* and then remove the "*"s when I have edited them. When I try to remove the "*"s I now get a non-match icon at the top left of the image and version set icon in the top right corner. I cannot expand the version set like I could on Elements 11. Am I doing something wrong in version 14?

Any help and advice would be much appreciated.

Maps.

No luck, Google has changed the APIs used by Elements (and other softwares) to access their maps. The new way has been implemented in PSE15 and PSE2018. So, Adobe has changed its maps provider for the current PSE2019.

To see and manage version sets or stacks, change the default view from the new 'adaptative view' to the old 'detailed view', shortcut Ctrl D.

Last Edit: Oct 24, 2018 16:23:55 GMT by michelb: typos

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jonesy New Forum Member Posts: 16 Open to constructive criticism of photos: Yes	Upgraded from Elements 11 to 14 Oct 24, 2018 19:08:43 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by jonesy on Oct 24, 2018 19:08:43 GMT Thanks michelb . That is much better regarding the stacks. Looks like I am going to have to upgrade when there is a software sale to use the map feature
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BuckSkin
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Upgraded from Elements 11 to 14 Oct 26, 2018 17:43:16 GMT jonesy likes this

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Post by BuckSkin on Oct 26, 2018 17:43:16 GMT

Oct 22, 2018 20:30:08 GMT jonesy said:

when I try to allocate places to images I get a grey screen instead of a map.

This thread explains the mapping issues:

photoshopelementsandmore.com/thread/5214/maps-mapbox-google

I would hesitate on buying a more recent program until the map problem gets straightened out; a newer program may soon lose it's mapping abilities as well.

Elements 7 ~~~ 64-bit Windows 7

On a poverty-level Kentucky budget, a 24-exposure roll of film would have two Christmases and a summer vacation on it and we might have to wait another six months before being able to afford developing the film.
I still have trouble remembering that it doesn't cost anything to take thousands of pictures; it just almost seems impossible to be true.

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Upgraded from Elements 11 to 14 Oct 26, 2018 17:52:14 GMT jonesy likes this

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Post by BuckSkin on Oct 26, 2018 17:52:14 GMT

Oct 22, 2018 20:30:08 GMT jonesy said:

I had been running elements 11 before that and had no issues.

There is no reason why you can't have Elements 11 installed alongside Elements 14, or as many versions as you want, and all versions will work independently.

I have E7 and E12 both installed on our machines and only ever open E12 to use the "Refine Edge' feature that just barely works as advertised --- at least for me.

From what I have been reading about the map issue, it affects all Adobe programs that were set up to use Google Maps, so the ability is probably lost in E11 as well, but it would be interesting to know for certain.

Elements 7 ~~~ 64-bit Windows 7

On a poverty-level Kentucky budget, a 24-exposure roll of film would have two Christmases and a summer vacation on it and we might have to wait another six months before being able to afford developing the film.
I still have trouble remembering that it doesn't cost anything to take thousands of pictures; it just almost seems impossible to be true.

jonesy
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Upgraded from Elements 11 to 14 Oct 26, 2018 18:40:18 GMT

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Post by jonesy on Oct 26, 2018 18:40:18 GMT

Oct 26, 2018 17:43:16 GMT BuckSkin said:

Oct 22, 2018 20:30:08 GMT jonesy said:

when I try to allocate places to images I get a grey screen instead of a map.

This thread explains the mapping issues:

photoshopelementsandmore.com/thread/5214/maps-mapbox-google

I would hesitate on buying a more recent program until the map problem gets straightened out; a newer program may soon lose it's mapping abilities as well.

Thanks. I dont WANT to upgrade. I use elements because it doesnt force me to keep paying every month.... and it does way more than I will likely ever need.

Nikon D800 & the "trinity"
Olympus E-M10 MkII 14-42, 40-150 (travel kit)
Elements 14
www.flickr.com/photos/126503914@N07/

michelb
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Upgraded from Elements 11 to 14 Oct 26, 2018 18:59:23 GMT

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Post by michelb on Oct 26, 2018 18:59:23 GMT

I dont WANT to upgrade. I use elements because it doesnt force me to keep paying every month.... and it does way more than I will likely ever need.

The problem is that everything is changing around Photoshop Elements.

You are free to wait for an update which is worth the trouble.

But, while your present Elements version won't change, everything around it will change.

- the OS version

- your hardware (display, printer driver, graphic processors, the raw format of your new camera... and much more)
- you'll get new features, new bug fixes.

- you'll get better performance.

In the present case, you'll get incompatibilities with external softwares, namely Map providers.

- Adobe did drop Yahoo for Google.

- People were generally not satisfied with Google, mainly because they did not agree to the places hierarchy in Google.

- Google abruptly ceased support or older APIs last year with versions before PSE15. PSE15 was not hit, since it used the new APIs.

- after a few months, they finally supported those older versions again.

- Now, versions before PSE15 and PSE2018 don't work again, and probably won't never be supported.

- PSE15 and PSE2018 are still supported with the new APIs. How much that does cost to Adobe is not known.

- PSE2019 has dropped Google for obvious reasons.

- We are getting the same complaints about the place hierarchy from the new free (and probably more future proof solution).

- Adobe is not alone with problems with Google. People using Geosetter for better geotagging are facing the same issues...

Michel B.

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jonesy
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Upgraded from Elements 11 to 14 Oct 26, 2018 19:30:04 GMT

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Post by jonesy on Oct 26, 2018 19:30:04 GMT

Oct 26, 2018 18:59:23 GMT michelb said:

I dont WANT to upgrade. I use elements because it doesnt force me to keep paying every month.... and it does way more than I will likely ever need.

The problem is that everything is changing around Photoshop Elements.

You are free to wait for an update which is worth the trouble.

But, while your present Elements version won't change, everything around it will change.

- the OS version

- your hardware (display, printer driver, graphic processors, the raw format of your new camera... and much more)
- you'll get new features, new bug fixes.

- you'll get better performance.

In the present case, you'll get incompatibilities with external softwares, namely Map providers.

- Adobe did drop Yahoo for Google.

- People were generally not satisfied with Google, mainly because they did not agree to the places hierarchy in Google.

- Google abruptly ceased support or older APIs last year with versions before PSE15. PSE15 was not hit, since it used the new APIs.

- after a few months, they finally supported those older versions again.

- Now, versions before PSE15 and PSE2018 don't work again, and probably won't never be supported.

- PSE15 and PSE2018 are still supported with the new APIs. How much that does cost to Adobe is not known.

- PSE2019 has dropped Google for obvious reasons.

- We are getting the same complaints about the place hierarchy from the new free (and probably more future proof solution).

- Adobe is not alone with problems with Google. People using Geosetter for better geotagging are facing the same issues...

Yes I understand other things change... But I want to be able to choose when I want to upgrade the software. I am unlikely to upgrade the cameras for the foreseeable future. The computer, well, its new and its the first time I have had a Win10 computer at home... so thats not likely to be upgraded in a good while. I use CAD software at work and that is all subscription based, and I really dont think its a good think for the user, I have experienced so many more problems since they moved to a subscription only model... and I do not want that at home. I can live without maps, I like elements for the catalogue and the editing tools that are very useful easy to use. I love the fact that I can pay once every 2 or 3 years or so, and when I stop paying, I still have access to the software. I'm probably in a minority tho

Nikon D800 & the "trinity"
Olympus E-M10 MkII 14-42, 40-150 (travel kit)
Elements 14
www.flickr.com/photos/126503914@N07/

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