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Post by funkyl on Jan 4, 2019 3:54:28 GMT
Hi Folks!
Thanks for your help on my previous question about collages in PSE 19. I've run into another difference from PSE 11 that I haven't found an answer to. I print my collages to 8 1/2 by 11, portrait orientation, to keep in standard size sheet protectors in a 3 ring binder. This worked fine in PSE 11. In PSE 19, the layout seems to be 4x6, which could be printed as 6x9, too small to fill the page, or 8x12, an inch too long. Is there a way to change the proportions/aspect ratio on the collage as a whole, rather than just the individual photos in the collage? I could leave 1/2 inch of blank space at the top and bottom, but I'm hoping there's a better way to do it.
Thanks!
Lisa
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Post by pontiac1940 on Jan 4, 2019 4:53:36 GMT
I don't print from PSE ... people here are actual experts.  If I understand your problem correctly....Start with a new file that is sized exactly as you want (8 1/2 by 11) and at the correct resolution and do your collage layout by dropping images into the new blank page. When ready to print, hit <ctrl/cmd><P>, then on the print interface (print screen) that pops up, you can change the settings such as orientation and paper size. Should work, no? Good luck, Clive Never saw Sepiana's reply.... |
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Post by Sepiana on Jan 4, 2019 4:57:41 GMT
Hi Lisa,
I am assuming you are talking about creating a collage using Create>Photo Collage in the Guided Edit mode. If so, Adobe redesigned this feature in PSE 2019. Now the layout templates are interactive (including Facebook and Instagram layouts). A collage is automatically created based on the number of the selected photos. Then, you can take your collage to the Expert Editor (Expert mode) and customize it -- layout, templates, size, etc. If you save your collage as a Project (.pse file), you should be able to export it in different sizes.
See if this will help. Post back if you have further questions.
Create photo collages in PSE 2019 release (Help)
Photo Collage -- PSE 2019
Resize Photo Collage -- PSE 2019
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Post by Sepiana on Jan 4, 2019 5:04:03 GMT
Never saw Sepiana's reply.... Clive, I had to repost my earlier reply. I was trying to edit it when we had a power failure. For some reason, my post disappeared. Sorry for the confusion. |
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Post by Bailey on Jan 4, 2019 5:19:58 GMT
[offtopic] Clive, I had to repost my earlier reply. I was trying to edit it when we had a power failure. For some reason, my post disappeared. Sorry for the confusion. Don't worry Sepiana.
It is impossible for a power failure to your pc to remove a post from the forum's database, even if you had a copy of it open in your PC's RAM for editing. The power failure would cause just the copy in your RAM to be lost, not the original in the forum's database. Changes/edits to the forum's database records are not actually "committed" until you actually click the Save, Update or similar button. If your post was actually "lost" and not just reassigned in the post sequence for some reason by you, then it was due to a glitch on the forum's server or someone changing posts/things manually.
If database's anywhere were vulnerable to power failures while user's were connected to them then that would be an untenable nightmare for database administrators to continually correct. [/offtopic] |
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Post by Sepiana on Jan 4, 2019 5:36:29 GMT
Never saw Sepiana's reply.... Clive, I had to repost my earlier reply. I was trying to edit it when we had a power failure. For some reason, my post disappeared. Sorry for the confusion. Clive, just an update. I went "behind the scene" and figured out what happened. All is well now! We can go back to focus on the problem posted by Lisa. |
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Post by Bailey on Jan 4, 2019 6:00:03 GMT
...I went "behind the scene" and figured out what happened. All is well now! We can go back to focus on the problem posted by Lisa. Good to see your "power failure" wasn't the cause of the "problem" 
Hi funkyl, I do a lot of printing from PSE on both standard and custom sized papers, so I might or might not be able to help depending on how you are creating your collages. Can you please provide more details on how you are creating and sizing your collage documents.
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Post by Sepiana on Jan 4, 2019 6:23:45 GMT
I've run into another difference from PSE 11 that I haven't found an answer to. I print my collages to 8 1/2 by 11, portrait orientation, to keep in standard size sheet protectors in a 3 ring binder. This worked fine in PSE 11. In PSE 19, the layout seems to be 4x6, . . . Lisa, I paid a visit to the Adobe forums. Someone mentioned that PSE 2019 automatically fills a 6 x 4 collage. They recommended the suggestions in the videos I posted the link earlier.
I also found this thread. You may want to check it out.
Resize Photo Collage - Photoshop Elements 2019
As a side note, Michel, one of the participants in that thread is a member here -- michelb . He is better qualified to shed more light on this issue. (He is an Adobe Community Professional and MVP). Hopefully, he will join this discussion.
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Post by Bailey on Jan 4, 2019 6:53:35 GMT
If you are creating collage documents as Clive suspected you might be, I am not sure what he means by "correct resolution" in his post. To create an 8.5in x 11in document for a collage and suitable for printing (or any purpose for that matter, so this might help others as well) I would set it up as shown on the right. 1. Set the length and height dimensions to your paper size. 2. Since all printers will resample a document to their native resolution (Epson - 360ppi, Canon, HP and most others - 300ppi) set the resolution to your printer's native resolution. In this example I set it to 300ppi. When you click ok, a document 2550px (300x8.5) by 3300px (300x11) will be created. If you are creating a collage document via a different process then I agree with Sepiana and michelb should be able to help much more. hth |
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Post by cats4jan on Jan 4, 2019 10:04:29 GMT
I agree with the suggestions that you start from your own blank project in the correct size and resolution. In Expert mode. However, if you are using the collage function so the page is designed for you, I can see where you may want to use PSE’s collage function. Personally, I’d use the collage function as a schematic- to give me ideas - but I can understand not wanting to do the extra work of starting from “scratch”
From your previous post and it's accompanying screenshot, it looks like they've improved collage making since PSE11. With improvements, there is a new learning curve, but in the end, you will be glad for the improvements.
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Post by funkyl on Jan 4, 2019 13:21:17 GMT
Hi folks - your help is making my transition from PSE 11 to PSE 19 much less frustrating than it would have been. You've given me good suggestions and pointed me to links that may help. I will read and try them. I have a weird work schedule, and will have limited time for emails or anything that requires internet access for the next several days, so If I don't respond quickly to posts, it's because the job that pays the bills is keeping me from doing the fun stuff! Thanks so much for your help!
Lisa
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Post by Sepiana on Jan 4, 2019 22:31:41 GMT
Personally, I’d use the collage function as a schematic- to give me ideas - . . . I am on the same wavelength. As a matter of fact, this has been suggested on the Adobe forums -- use Photo Collage as a starting point and, then, go from there.
Photo Collage in PSE 2019 is one of the "hottest" topics on the Adobe forums. Adobe changed it so much that it is listed as one of the new features in this version. In one of the videos I mentioned earlier, Jon, Adobe Community Professional, says that Adobe "re-imagined and rebuilt it from the ground up". I have read statements by the Adobe staff explaining that they have redesigned Photo Collage to make it fully automatic, more intuitive, and to allow for more customization when you take your collage to the Expert Editor. |
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Post by pontiac1940 on Jan 5, 2019 0:04:34 GMT
Lisa ... off topic .. just clarifying.
Bailey wrote, "If you are creating collage documents as Clive suspected you might be, I am not sure what he means by "correct resolution" in his post."
As shown in the inset image Bailey posted of the "new image" window, there is a space for resolution.
The default resolution for the new image file might be set at a number different than required, so my point was valid. The example window shows 300 ppi. Mine defaults to 72 ppi for a new image file, but camera images open at 300 ppi. If creating a new file, the ppi needed will depend on output and may or may not be 300 ppi. In Lisa's case, she is printing so one assumes 300 ppi. However, 72 ppi is standard for web images... or has that changed? I've created image files for canvas prints at 200 or 240 ppi..because they are huge canvas prints ... and they are great prints. Of course, 300 ppi is for "normal" printing.
What I wrote is correct, although nothing might be changed in the resolution window. Depends.
Clive
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Post by cats4jan on Jan 5, 2019 2:32:13 GMT
For printing -- I never worry about resolution - I worry about pixel size. I make sure my pixel size - when divided by 300 - will give a print size I need. Yes, that is resolution, per se - but for those who get confused about what to set resolution at - it's irrelevant as long as the overall pixel size is large enough for a print that works for you. Just divide your pixels by 300 and you'll get an idea of the largest good quality print you can get.
For example - if I set my project or use a photograph that is 3600 pixels by 2400 pixels - I know I can get a good print of 12 inches x 8 inches.
As for poster sizes, I've heard we don't need as many pixels per inch because posters are viewed from a distance, but really - how many posters do people print? Stick to 300 pixels per inch and you can't go wrong.
As for web sites - they will give you the largest pixel size they can handle - or the largest pixel size they want to deal with - just look for pixel dimension parameters on your websites.
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Post by Bailey on Jan 5, 2019 3:29:27 GMT
... However, 72 ppi is standard for web images... or has that changed? ... Paper size and PPI are totally meaningless and irrelevant for web display. The only thing that matters is pixel dimensions in this case because without resampling a 1000px x 1000px image, for example, will still be 1000px x 1000px whether you set the resolution to 72ppi, 100ppi, 240ppi, 300ppi or any other ppi value you like. The sole purpose of PPI is to set the paper size when printing, nothing more, nothing less. As I posted earlier, all printers will resample an image to their native resolution if the image is not already set at the printer's native resolution. That's just the way printers work. Funkyl mentioned in her OP that she prints her collages, hence my setting resolution to 300ppi in my example earlier for creating a new blank document for printing since most printers' native resolution is 300ppi.
If I use one of the high resolution print settings in my Epson printer where the native resolution is actually 720ppi then I would set the resolution in my new blank document to 720ppi if I intended to print the final document.
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