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Post by Sepiana on Jan 5, 2019 4:37:00 GMT
Hi folks - your help is making my transition from PSE 11 to PSE 19 much less frustrating than it would have been. You've given me good suggestions and pointed me to links that may help. I will read and try them. Thanks so much for your help! Lisa Lisa, don't feel frustrated. You can do it; I believe in you.
After you check those links, if you need further help, please, post back.
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Post by pontiac1940 on Jan 5, 2019 4:39:27 GMT
PPI ... irrelevant for web display. The only thing that matters is pixel dimensions Thanks for this Bailey. |
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Post by Bailey on Jan 5, 2019 8:11:18 GMT
... As for web sites - they will give you the largest pixel size they can handle - or the largest pixel size they want to deal with - just look for pixel dimension parameters on your websites. If they specify a file size limit, the main reason would be to limit how much server storage space users use for their images. There is no point in uploading images larger (in pixel dimensions) than the largest screen size images are likely to be viewed on. In any case, all browsers will downsize the image anyway, whether you like it or not, to fit whatever space has been allocated to the image on the web page by the developer.
You cannot physically fit a 5000px wide image onto a screen that is only say 1920px wide. So in this case loading such a large image is silly imho, especially since you cannot stop visitors from downloading the high pixel count image.
Sizing Images For Web Display
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Post by Sepiana on Jan 5, 2019 8:29:07 GMT
Hi folks - your help is making my transition from PSE 11 to PSE 19 much less frustrating than it would have been. ! Lisa Lisa, just a little something to help your transition. You mentioned in another thread you had the user manual. Did you get the updated PDF version for PSE 2019? I am asking this because Adobe didn't publish it until some time after PSE 2019 had been released. Here is the correct link.
helpx.adobe.com/content/dam/help/en/pdf/photoshop-elements_reference.pdf |
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Post by Bailey on Jan 5, 2019 8:53:00 GMT
PPI ... irrelevant for web display. The only thing that matters is pixel dimensions Thanks for this Bailey.
No problem Clive.
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Post by Sepiana on Jan 5, 2019 9:27:42 GMT
Lisa ... off topic .. just clarifying. Bailey wrote, "If you are creating collage documents as Clive suspected you might be, I am not sure what he means by "correct resolution" in his post." As shown in the inset image Bailey posted of the "new image" window, there is a space for resolution. The default resolution for the new image file might be set at a number different than required, so my point was valid. The example window shows 300 ppi. Mine defaults to 72 ppi for a new image file, but camera images open at 300 ppi. If creating a new file, the ppi needed will depend on output and may or may not be 300 ppi. In Lisa's case, she is printing so one assumes 300 ppi. However, 72 ppi is standard for web images... or has that changed? I've created image files for canvas prints at 200 or 240 ppi..because they are huge canvas prints ... and they are great prints. Of course, 300 ppi is for "normal" printing. What I wrote is correct, although nothing might be changed in the resolution window. Depends. Clive Clive, thanks for the clarification! I am sure Lisa will appreciate it (and so will our members).
I am taking the liberty to refer to your previous post. This thread is getting a bit convoluted; this will make it easier for our members to "connect the dots".
Start with a new file that is sized exactly as you want (8 1/2 by 11) and at the correct resolution and do your collage layout by dropping images into the new blank page. When ready to print, hit <ctrl/cmd><P>, then on the print interface (print screen) that pops up, you can change the settings such as orientation and paper size. |
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Post by Bailey on Jan 5, 2019 10:07:15 GMT
... I am taking the liberty to refer to your previous post. This thread is getting a bit convoluted; this will make it easier for our members to "connect the dots".
Start with a new file that is sized exactly as you want (8 1/2 by 11) and at the correct resolution and do your collage layout by dropping images into the new blank page. When ready to print, hit <ctrl/cmd><P>, then on the print interface (print screen) that pops up, you can change the settings such as orientation and paper size. And to help members even more to "connect the dots", the meaning of "correct resolution" regarding printing in Clive's post needs to be explained. Without a value it probably doesn't help members much as I posted earlier. On my Epson printer, the "correct resolution" for printing is either 360ppi or 720ppi depending on which quality setting I set in the printer driver.
When creating a new blank document which will be printed at the end of the project, the "correct resolution" is your printer's native resolution.
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Post by Bailey on Jan 6, 2019 1:37:23 GMT
For printing -- I never worry about resolution - I worry about pixel size. I make sure my pixel size - when divided by 300 - will give a print size I need. Yes, that is resolution, per se - but for those who get confused about what to set resolution at - it's irrelevant as long as the overall pixel size is large enough for a print that works for you. Just divide your pixels by 300 and you'll get an idea of the largest good quality print you can get. For example - if I set my project or use a photograph that is 3600 pixels by 2400 pixels - I know I can get a good print of 12 inches x 8 inches. ... ... As a rough guide that is very true. The 300ppi rule-of-thumb is most probably due to most printers' native resolution being 300ppi. If an image to be printed is not at the printer's native resolution, all printers will resample (add/remove pixels) the image to their native resolution. Since I have a printer whose native resolution is actually 360ppi, not 300ppi, I need to divide the images length and height by 360 instead of 300 to get a guide to the maximum size the image can be printed to. With your 3600px x 2400px example image, the maximum print size on my printer would be 10in x 6.7in without the image being resampled by the printer driver. If I sent the 3600px x 2400px image to my printer to be printed on a 12in x 8in sheet, the printer/driver would resample the image to 4320px (12x360) x 2880px (8x360) before outputting the print. Depending on the contents and/or colours in the image, the resampling might or might not affect the image quality on the print. The same applies to Clive's 200ppi, 240ppi canvas prints. The printer would have resampled the images to its native resolution (most probably 300ppi) before outputting the canvas print.
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Post by funkyl on Jan 6, 2019 3:02:07 GMT
I've run into another difference from PSE 11 that I haven't found an answer to. I print my collages to 8 1/2 by 11, portrait orientation, to keep in standard size sheet protectors in a 3 ring binder. This worked fine in PSE 11. In PSE 19, the layout seems to be 4x6, . . . Lisa, I paid a visit to the Adobe forums. Someone mentioned that PSE 2019 automatically fills a 6 x 4 collage. They recommended the suggestions in the videos I posted the link earlier.
I also found this thread. You may want to check it out.
Resize Photo Collage - Photoshop Elements 2019
As a side note, Michel, one of the participants in that thread is a member here -- michelb . He is better qualified to shed more light on this issue. (He is an Adobe Community Professional and MVP). Hopefully, he will join this discussion.
Sepiana, the "resize photo collage" video appears to have the answer I was looking for; I should now be able to create a collage in the print size I want! I may continue to start with a collage project, or move on to starting my album pages from scratch. Either way, I'm back to feeling good about having updated to PSE 19. Thank you! Lisa |
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Post by funkyl on Jan 6, 2019 3:22:09 GMT
Thanks all! with your help, I should now be able to either resize the collage project to print to the size/ratio that I want, or start with a new blank document and build my collage from scratch to that size.
Lisa
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Post by Sepiana on Jan 7, 2019 6:21:51 GMT
Lisa, I paid a visit to the Adobe forums. Someone mentioned that PSE 2019 automatically fills a 6 x 4 collage. They recommended the suggestions in the videos I posted the link earlier.
I also found this thread. You may want to check it out.
Resize Photo Collage - Photoshop Elements 2019
As a side note, Michel, one of the participants in that thread is a member here -- michelb . He is better qualified to shed more light on this issue. (He is an Adobe Community Professional and MVP). Hopefully, he will join this discussion.
Sepiana, the "resize photo collage" video appears to have the answer I was looking for; I should now be able to create a collage in the print size I want! I may continue to start with a collage project, or move on to starting my album pages from scratch. Either way, I'm back to feeling good about having updated to PSE 19. Thank you! Lisa Lisa, you are most welcome! Great news. I had a strong feeling that video by Jon was just what the doctor ordered. Kudos to Jon!
Success with your collage projects! Enjoy PSE 2019!
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Post by Bailey on Jan 7, 2019 7:46:43 GMT
Thanks all! with your help, I should now be able to either resize the collage project to print to the size/ratio that I want, or start with a new blank document and build my collage from scratch to that size. Lisa
No problem funkyl  .
Glad to see you got your issue sorted out and that Clive's suggestion to create a new blank file for your collage and the subsequent information in this thread on how to size new blank documents for printing has been a help
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Post by Sepiana on Jan 7, 2019 8:32:38 GMT
Sepiana, . . . I may continue to start with a collage project, or move on to starting my album pages from scratch. Either way, I'm back to feeling good about having updated to PSE 19. Thank you! Lisa Lisa, you are most welcome!
Here is something else that will make you feel good about using PSE 2019 (instead of PSE 11) for your collage projects. Back in PSE 15, Adobe introduced the Drag and Drop feature. It enables you to just drag and drop your photo, text, paper, etc, into a template (without the need for clipping masks). There are Drag and Drop templates designed to make use of this feature.
If you are interested in also creating collages this way, you may want to check the threads below. You will find information on the Drag and Drop feature as well as links to websites where you can get these templates.
Digital Scrapbooking -- Resources
Templates
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