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Post by tonyw on Feb 3, 2019 16:44:16 GMT
I recall a very similar masking tool, that involved painting with green and red to define the areas, in a much earlier version of ON1 and it worked rather well.
Tony, are you thinking of Perfect Mask, one of the modules in the now-discontinued ON1 Perfect Photo suite? I really liked the way it worked. I loved the Pen and the Chisel tools!
That was the one. I recall it did a very good job initially so refining the mask was easier than this new AI version appears to be but I haven’t investigated it too closely yet so my opinion could change! Tony |
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Post by kdcintx on Feb 4, 2019 1:41:37 GMT
The latest marketing scheme is going "AI" everything with Topaz and now ON1.
Isn't that the truth? Adobe has already jumped on the "AI" bandwagon. The Auto Creations feature introduced in PSE 2019 is powered by their Adobe Sensei AI technology. Last year they introduced a new tool in Photoshop -- the Select Subject tool -- which also uses this technology.
I use an older version of PSE and didn’t know about AI in PSE 2019.  As always, thanks for keeping us informed. |
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Post by Sepiana on Feb 5, 2019 2:23:41 GMT
Sepiana - The chisel tool is in the newest version of On1 Photo Raw 2019.2. And it works just as well if not better then the previous version. Bruce, you are absolutely right; it is there. I had somehow overlooked it. Thanks so much! I owe you one. |
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Post by Sepiana on Feb 5, 2019 2:28:50 GMT
Tony, are you thinking of Perfect Mask, one of the modules in the now-discontinued ON1 Perfect Photo suite? I really liked the way it worked. I loved the Pen and the Chisel tools!
That was the one. I recall it did a very good job initially so refining the mask was easier than this new AI version appears to be but I haven’t investigated it too closely yet so my opinion could change! Tony Tony, thanks for answering my question! I still have the Perfect Photo suite; I may revisit it to see how its Mask compares to the new AI version. |
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Post by Sepiana on Feb 5, 2019 2:32:25 GMT
Isn't that the truth? Adobe has already jumped on the "AI" bandwagon. The Auto Creations feature introduced in PSE 2019 is powered by their Adobe Sensei AI technology. Last year they introduced a new tool in Photoshop -- the Select Subject tool -- which also uses this technology.
I use an older version of PSE and didn’t know about AI in PSE 2019. As always, thanks for keeping us informed. kdcintx, you are most welcome! It is not an easy task to keep up with all the changes even if one updates PSE on a regular basis. |
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Post by bnk1953 on Feb 5, 2019 2:52:02 GMT
Sepiana - The chisel tool is in the newest version of On1 Photo Raw 2019.2. And it works just as well if not better then the previous version. Bruce, you are absolutely right; it is there. I had somehow overlooked it. Thanks so much! I owe you one. NO WAY - it is me (and many others on here) that OWE YOU big time. |
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Post by tonyw on Feb 6, 2019 1:28:07 GMT
I did go back and try extracting an image that I did a few years back (likely using Perfect Suite) - it was shot against a plain white background but the subjects have wispy hair so not a straightforward extraction. Tried both the ON1 AI tool and the new Photoshop CC Select Subject. Neither did a finished job but both made a reasonable start - Photoshop CC was maybe a bit better at selecting the subjects without missing bits initially. Refining the selection worked reasonably well in both but I think ON1 did a slightly better job although Photoshop CC's ability to quickly view the selection against various backgrounds (eg onion skin, white, black etc) was a plus. Just my first impressions but I came to the conclusion that a combination of all the best features in all the extraction methods I've tried (and add Topaz Remask into the mix) would be perfect. I can't really say that AI has added anything - maybe one of these days computer programs will be smart enough to decide that wispy hair belongs to the subject and not to the background  . It's obvious to me but apparently not to computers..... Tony |
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As always, thanks for keeping us informed. 
. It's obvious to me but apparently not to computers.....