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Post by Inspeqtor on Jul 21, 2019 6:58:57 GMT
I have done this hundreds or probably thousands of times before with no problems but now all of a sudden it is not working.
I am using Photoshop Elements 15 on Windows 10
With the photo loaded in Elements, I then go to Image/Resize/Image Size
It did not used to do this, but now when I do those above steps in the Document Size of the window I am seeing INCHES in the Height and Width, with the Resolution set to Pixels/Inch
Also Resample Image is not checked
Before when I did this it was always showing Pixels in the Height/Width boxes
I do not remember what Resample Image used to be at.
I change the Height/Width from Inches so it is now Points to match the Pixel Size in the box above in the Pixel Dimension area.
I change the pixel from the larger number to the smaller number I want to use like I have done so many hundreds of times before, but now when I click OK there is no change. Before the image would shrink in size within Photoshop Elements.
I have also tried changing the Resample Image to now being checked, but nothing changes with the image size here either.
Thank you for any help you can give me!
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Post by Bailey on Jul 21, 2019 7:22:56 GMT
Hi Inspeqtor,
Resize Image works just fine in my PSE and I am not sure from your post what exactly you are trying to do.
Are you resizing for printing or screen display? For screen display I normally resample the image. For printing I resize without resampling.
Perhaps provide more info on what exactly you are starting with re image size and what you want to end up with, screen display or printing.
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Post by Inspeqtor on Jul 21, 2019 11:11:41 GMT
Hi Bailey,
The reason I need to resize is there is a forum I post pictures to requires the images not to be over 1600 pixels either side.
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Post by Sepiana on Jul 21, 2019 12:27:02 GMT
Hi Charles, I am a bit confused with what you say is happening. Let's take one step at a time. (NOTE: My screen shots are from PSE 15.)With the photo loaded in Elements, I then go to Image/Resize/Image Size It did not used to do this, but now when I do those above steps in the Document Size of the window I am seeing INCHES in the Height and Width, with the Resolution set to Pixels/Inch Also Resample Image is not checked Before when I did this it was always showing Pixels in the Height/Width boxes When you open the Image Size dialog, as a rule of thumb, the Inches dimensions will be displayed in the Document Size>Width/Height boxes. It's like the "default". The other options in the menu will be Percent, Centimeters, Millimeters, Points, Columns, Picas. You need to turn on Resample Image. This will enable you to change the Width/Height dimensions in the Pixel Dimensions boxes.
The reason I need to resize is there is a forum I post pictures to requires the images not to be over 1600 pixels either side. If this is what you want to do, here are Barbara Brundage's instructions to resize a photo for posting online.
Source: The Missing Manual, Chapter 3: Rotating and Resizing Photos, Section: Resizing Images for Email and the Web. Please give this a try. If it doesn't work, then, something else is going on.
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Post by PeteB on Jul 21, 2019 13:15:55 GMT
Hi
One thing to add — In the Image Size dialog, the Document Size options can be selected in Preferences>Units & Rulers. In other words, if you have chosen your RULER to display inches, the Document Size displayed in Image Resize will display inches.
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Post by Inspeqtor on Jul 21, 2019 18:03:34 GMT
Sepiana,
Thank you. Your reply fixed my problem. I THOUGHT I had tried clicking on Resample Image and when I tried it it did the same thing. Now when I click on Resample Image and go thru the steps it DOES work properly!
Thank you
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Post by Inspeqtor on Jul 21, 2019 18:06:58 GMT
Hi One thing to add — In the Image Size dialog, the Document Size options can be selected in Preferences>Units & Rulers. In other words, if you have chosen your RULER to display inches, the Document Size displayed in Image Resize will display inches. Hi Pete, I am aware to be cautious to make sure I choose the proper VALUE to be able to work with Pixels and not choose the wrong value such as Inches, but it never hurts to be sure the people you are helping know what they are doing. Thank you Pete!
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Post by Major Major on Jul 21, 2019 18:56:38 GMT
Charles -
Regarding your pixels/points problem, you should be assigning your values in the Pixel Dimensions boxes. Looks like you're trying in the document Size boxes.
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Post by Inspeqtor on Jul 21, 2019 20:08:49 GMT
Major,
Thank you! You are right it looks like to me
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Post by Bailey on Jul 22, 2019 2:43:26 GMT
Glad you sorted it out Inspeqtor As I mentioned in my original post, for screen display you need to resample the image to the pixel dimensions you want. The Document Size panel is used to size your document for printing to a desired photo paper size.
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Post by Inspeqtor on Jul 22, 2019 5:42:50 GMT
Bailey,
Thank you
I have one clarification question, do I use Resample Image for both online screen display, and for document size for printing?
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Post by Sepiana on Jul 22, 2019 6:19:47 GMT
Sepiana, Thank you. Your reply fixed my problem. I THOUGHT I had tried clicking on Resample Image and when I tried it it did the same thing. Now when I click on Resample Image and go thru the steps it DOES work properly! Thank you Charles, you are most welcome! Glad to hear -- "Your reply fixed my problem." Credit shared with Barbara Brundage and her Missing Manual. As I used to say on the EV forum -- "Don't use Photoshop Elements without it."
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Post by Bailey on Jul 22, 2019 6:56:34 GMT
Bailey, Thank you I have one clarification question, do I use Resample Image for both online screen display, and for document size for printing? No problem Inspeqtor. For screen display I usually resample an image to fit inside ~2000px x 1000px since my screen is 1980px x 1080px. If someone uploads an image larger than the viewer's screen size, then I don't see why it would be unreasonable for the viewer to download the image and view it at 100% or do whatever they like with it since viewing at 100% is the only way they can see every pixel in an image that is larger than their screen. Keep in mind also, every browser will downsize a large image to whatever width and/or height the creator of the web page the image is displayed on has assigned to the image in the web page's CSS (Cascading Style Sheet). So uploading large images is really a waste of time and resources unless you are happy for anyone who wants the image to simply take it free of charge. For printing purposes, I don't resample an image at all. Keep in mind that every time you resample an image for any purpose you run the risk of image degradation because you are adding or removing pixels and changing their rgb values. Degradation of sharpness is typically one example depending on the amount of resampling. Every ink jet printer will have its own native printer resolution. That is just the way ink jet printers work. Epson typically has a native print resolution of 360ppi or 720ppi for high end printer settings while Canon, HP and I suspect most other printers have a native resolution of 300ppi. You can optionally resample an image to your printer's native resolution (in PSE or whatever) or you can let the printer resample an image that it is not at the printer's native print resolution to its native print resolution prior to printing as part of the printing process. Personally, my workflow for printing is this: 1. I use the Rectangular Marquee Tool to select the part of image I want to print using the aspect ratio of the paper I will be printing on. 2. Select Image->Crop from the main menu to make a 100% crop. 3. I then select Image->Resize->Image Size and I make sure the Resample checkbox is unchecked. I don't want to resample the image. 4. I then set the Document Size width or height to the paper size in mm. The other paper dimension and resolution are then automatically calculated for you. I check that the calculated other dimension is correct and check that the resolution is close to 360ppi. My Epson SC P600's native print resolution is 360ppi and 720ppi at the higher print settings. As long as the calculated PPI is reasonably close to (either larger or smaller than) 360ppi then I am happy because I know there will be minimal resampling by the printer driver prior to printing. Depending on the contents of the image you can get away with calculated ppi's as low as 200ppi and still output a reasonably good quality print. I am happy to let my Epson printer driver do the resampling of an image to the printer's native print resolution as in my testing I see very, very little difference in the print quality if I do the resampling of the image to the printer's native print resolution in PSE prior to printing. HTH.........if not clear, please post back.
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Post by Inspeqtor on Jul 22, 2019 12:10:12 GMT
Thank you Sepiana and Bailey and everyone else that replied for the help and advice you all gave me. Much appreciated!!
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