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Post by blackmutt on Feb 16, 2020 2:36:31 GMT
Here are the steps I use for these two programs:
Import into LR
Make edits
Select edit in to bring the raw file into PS
make edits etc if I want to uses any filters I will have to change from a 16 bit to 8 bit image other wise its layers and such
Select Save - here is where I have a question
Sometimes when I select save - PS saves the image right back to LR and other times it brings up the dialog box asking what kind of file PSD or JPEG and where I should be saved. Why is that - why doesn't it always save back to LR? Thanks for any insight.
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Post by Sepiana on Feb 16, 2020 6:45:56 GMT
Judy, hope this helps!
If you do File>Save -- Your file will get back to Lightroom; you won't be asked any options.
If you do File>Save As -- A new document is created (which Lightroom knows nothing about) and you are given options (file type and where to save it).
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Post by blackmutt on Feb 16, 2020 13:28:49 GMT
I know for sure I anM not doing a save as but I think it’s because of the layers. If I flatten it I may not get that message. Will test my theory later. Thank you!!
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Post by tonyw on Feb 16, 2020 14:08:49 GMT
The way mine works I think is that it will always create a new file (a TIF or PSD depending on what you have set in PS preferences) but if you create a new layer or convert the background layer to regular layer it will ask on a Save for you to pick some options for the TIF file. Either way the new file then shows up in LR stacked with the original (the new file will have "edit" appended to the file name). As Sepiana says Save As will ask you for a new file name and it won't automatically get added to LR - you would need to import it if you wanted to edit it in LR.
Tony
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Post by Chris on Feb 16, 2020 19:00:14 GMT
This is how I understand how Lightroom works. If from LR you right click an image/edit in PSE then that edited image (psd, tiff or whatever) is automatically added in the LR catalogue. It will always stay in the LR catalogue unless you remove it. If while you are editing your psd file you save with a new file name or a different location, then the new file you have created will not be in the LR catalogue, but it will still be on your hard drive. So whether you use save / save as make sure the file name stays the same and in the same location. If it asks if you wish to replace the existing psd file you are still editing then choose OK. As has been mentioned, sometimes LR stacks edited images so it might appear invisible in the LR filmstrip until you unstack them. You can click the icon on the stack to unstack the group.
Kind regards Chris
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Post by blackmutt on Feb 16, 2020 22:44:42 GMT
I am going to pay closer attention when the dialog box pops up regarding where and what I want save vs no dialog box and ps (not pse) just sends it to lr. It’s a mystery as to why I get one over the other. I checked my preferences in lr and they are good. I will figure it out at some point
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Post by tonyw on Feb 17, 2020 0:37:54 GMT
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Post by raysosher on Aug 27, 2020 8:22:58 GMT
You should use save as option as it directly allows you to save your photo into your desired folder.
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Post by adobeman on Sept 15, 2020 14:31:01 GMT
The idea is to gave a circular workflow, LR -PS-LR. Lightroom should be your primary processor and PS/PSE is treated as a plugin. So Save will instruct PS to save back to lightroom catalog. If you select Save AS you break the link with LR. So if you want the image back in lightroom you need to re import it, which is wasteful of time and energy. Ken
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Post by Chris on Sept 15, 2020 15:16:56 GMT
Thank you very much for your thoughts Ken. That is exactly the workflow that I find the most useful and practical LR-PS-LR! I am using LR 6 and PS Elements 2020.
When in LR I go to Edit in/PS Elements. Then the PSD file is automatically added to the LR catalogue. After doing some editing I typically use control+S to save and the dialogue says this file already exists; do I wish to replace it? And I click OK. After that first time, using Control+S will just "save" without any questions.
You are quite right that using "Save as" to a new file name will remove the new saved file from the LR catalogue; that is something to avoid. However, using "Save as" to the same file name will be just like a normal "save" and keep the edited file in the LR catalogue.
Kind regards Chris
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Post by blackmutt on Sept 15, 2020 23:57:32 GMT
Agreed, Ken. Thanks!
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Post by hmca on Sept 16, 2020 11:52:57 GMT
Thank you for your post as well, Chris. I frequently use "Save as" and couldn't figure out why sometimes it would return to my LR catalogue and others it wouldn't.
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Post by michelb on Sept 16, 2020 13:02:26 GMT
The idea is to gave a circular workflow, LR -PS-LR. Lightroom should be your primary processor and PS/PSE is treated as a plugin. So Save will instruct PS to save back to lightroom catalog. If you select Save AS you break the link with LR. So if you want the image back in lightroom you need to re import it, which is wasteful of time and energy. Ken Yes.
The same idea applies if you use the organizer and choose Photoshop or an external editor.
A copy (version set) of your image is sent to Photoshop, to avoid overwriting your original. In Photoshop, you edit and save. When you get back to the organizer, the version set reflects the Photoshop edits (you may have to update thumbnail); if you 'save as' with another name and close the image in Photoshop, the new name file is not included in the organizer.
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Post by Sepiana on Sept 17, 2020 0:07:20 GMT
The idea is to gave a circular workflow, LR -PS-LR. Lightroom should be your primary processor and PS/PSE is treated as a plugin. So Save will instruct PS to save back to lightroom catalog. If you select Save AS you break the link with LR. So if you want the image back in lightroom you need to re import it, which is wasteful of time and energy. Ken Yes.
The same idea applies if you use the organizer and choose Photoshop or an external editor. A copy (version set) of your image is sent to Photoshop, to avoid overwriting your original. In Photoshop, you edit and save. When you get back to the organizer, the version set reflects the Photoshop edits (you may have to update thumbnail); if you 'save as' with another name and close the image in Photoshop, the new name file is not included in the organizer. Ken and Michel, a big thank-you from me! A concise, yet very clear explanation of this process. Very helpful!
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