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Post by Inspeqtor on Oct 15, 2020 3:08:08 GMT
How do I fix this over exposed background? I believe the foreground is pretty good, or do you think the foreground also needs tidying up? Would Elements 2020 do a good job by itself? I also have Nik 3 Collection. I do have the RAW file for this photo.... Taken with Canon 90D This is from the work of a Ladder-Back Woodpecker  Thank you for any help you are able to give me! |
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Post by Tpgettys on Oct 15, 2020 3:20:00 GMT
I guess I don't know what you mean by "fix", Charles. I quite like it, actually. The white is absolute white, so there is nothing to be recovered there. Perhaps doing a quick selection of the tree in the foreground and using a brightness/contrast adjustment layer would help to bring out its color and detail.
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Post by Sepiana on Oct 15, 2020 3:31:08 GMT
Charles, I'm not sure this will help but you could try using the Multiply blending mode to darken the overexposed area (background). Then, use a layer mask to hide the effect in the other areas. Photoshop Elements: Fix Overexposed Photos with the Multiply Blend ModeNOTE: This tutorial was written for PSE 7; this version doesn't have a layer mask. You can tweak this tutorial to "fit" PSE 2020. |
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Post by Inspeqtor on Oct 15, 2020 3:48:51 GMT
Tom, Thank you for your opinion! Maybe I will just leave it alone. I should have known/remembered this other fact... it has been years since I tried doing a "quick selection" as you put it. With that being a fact, I am like in kindergarten with Elements.  I do not remember how to fix the edges that do not go where they need to be as shown above. Several more edges also need arrows where I did not put them. You get the idea here.... |
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Post by Inspeqtor on Oct 15, 2020 3:54:40 GMT
Sepiana,
You made your post while I was typing mine up. I started looking at the first couple minutes of the video you posted. It looks like it might be easier to use over making a selection!
I will try that out!!
Thank you.....
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Post by Sepiana on Oct 15, 2020 4:01:53 GMT
Charles, I'm not sure that technique will work with all that white but it's worth a try.
I remember a tip I got from the late Wendy Williams on the EV forum. If just duplicating the background layer once and changing the blending mode to Multiply doesn't improve the overexposed area, try duplicating the "Multiply" layer more times until you like the results.
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Post by Tpgettys on Oct 15, 2020 5:10:25 GMT
Charles, our rules require your permission to use your image in posts. If that would be OK with you I can show you what I am thinking...
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Post by Inspeqtor on Oct 15, 2020 5:13:40 GMT
Charles, our rules require your permission to use your image in posts. If that would be OK with you I can show you what I am thinking... Can that rule be posted in our signature with my approval? Yes you have my permission! |
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Post by BuckSkin on Oct 15, 2020 5:20:22 GMT
I also have Nik 3 Collection. On a duplicate layer of your image, Try NIK > Color Effects Pro 4 > Landscape > Pro Contrast Set "Correct Contrast on 30% Set "Dynamic Contrast on 100% After you click Okay and are back in Elements, you can adjust layer opacity to suit (most of the time full 100% suits me, but sometimes I back it down a bit.) If it made things worse, simply delete the layer. Another thing you can try, and that white background is an ideal candidate = add a sky of your choice. Just like I explained on something else recently, except this time it will be a photo of a pretty sky. Window > Images > Tile Select the Sky image and, from the Layer bin, while holding the Shift key, drag the sky layer on top of your image. Once the sky is on top of your image layer stack and hiding the image, set the sky layer's Blend Mode to "Darken" and adjust it's opacity to suit. If it works like I think it will, you won't have hardly any cleanup to make it look like it was there all along. You can flip the sky layer horizontally if it suits the picture better in that orientation. If your sky layer happens to be smaller than the picture, use Image > Transform > Free Transform to drag it to size. I hope this helps. |
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Post by Inspeqtor on Oct 15, 2020 5:22:05 GMT
Charles, I'm not sure this will help but you could try using the Multiply blending mode to darken the overexposed area (background). Then, use a layer mask to hide the effect in the other areas. Photoshop Elements: Fix Overexposed Photos with the Multiply Blend ModeNOTE: This tutorial was written for PSE 7; this version doesn't have a layer mask. You can tweak this tutorial to "fit" PSE 2020. This is what I got using the second option from the video.  |
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Post by Inspeqtor on Oct 15, 2020 5:26:58 GMT
I also have Nik 3 Collection. On a duplicate layer of your image, Try NIK > Color Effects Pro 4 > Landscape > Pro Contrast Set "Correct Contrast on 30% Set "Dynamic Contrast on 100% After you click Okay and are back in Elements, you can adjust layer opacity to suit (most of the time full 100% suits me, but sometimes I back it down a bit.) If it made things worse, simply delete the layer. Another thing you can try, and that white background is an ideal candidate = add a sky of your choice. Just like I explained on something else recently, except this time it will be a photo of a pretty sky. Window > Images > Tile Select the Sky image and, from the Layer bin, while holding the Shift key, drag the sky layer on top of your image. Once the sky is on top of your image layer stack and hiding the image, set the sky layer's Blend Mode to "Darken" and adjust it's opacity to suit. If it works like I think it will, you won't have hardly any cleanup to make it look like it was there all along. You can flip the sky layer horizontally if it suits the picture better in that orientation. If your sky layer happens to be smaller than the picture, use Image > Transform > Free Transform to drag it to size. I hope this helps. You posted this about 1 minute before I posted mine! It is getting late, I need to hit the hay... will be back again after I get some shut-eye! |
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Post by Tpgettys on Oct 15, 2020 5:28:13 GMT
OK then! I was thinking of the tree in the immediate foreground. Select the Quick Selection tool and the Add button (see the arrows in the image below). Drag over the tree several times to select what you want. My selection is very crude, including some of the leaves, but I didn't worry about that.
Once you have your selection, add a Brightness/Contrast adjustment layer and adjust to your liking. Here is what I thought looked good:
Here is the same image after using the Tonal Contrast in NIK
Again, it all depends on what you are after, but perhaps this might give you some ideas to work with.
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Post by BuckSkin on Oct 15, 2020 5:29:47 GMT
I just thought of another thing you can do, providing the tree is handy and your photo is recent enough that the woodpecker hole is still there.
Preferably with a tripod, or with a good solid rifleman's hold, using Exposure Bracketing, take a series of at least three images, one two stops too dark, one two stops too bright, and one just right; then, use an HDR program to merge the images into a single properly exposed image.
I like free Luminance HDR for this; it is fairly simple and does a good job.
Of course, this all rides on where the tree is and whether you took that photo last week or fifteen years ago.
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Post by BuckSkin on Oct 15, 2020 5:33:49 GMT
It is getting late, I need to hit the hay... will be back again after I get some shut-eye! Like most nights, I sit here and drift off while clicking the mouse and pressing random keys; jerk myself awake for a few seconds, and do it again. Such can be dangerous when one has an EBay or Amazon window on the screen. |
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Post by PeteB on Oct 15, 2020 15:41:13 GMT
Hi Charles
A simple correction is to duplicate the background layer. Then select Enhance>Adjust Lightening>Shadows/Highlights. The Lighten Shadows slider defaults to 35% —- look at the tree bark and decide if you want to accept that amount or adjust it. The next slider is important because the highlights are blown. Move the Darken Highlights slider to the right and watch the highlights change … big improvement. Last, move the Midtone Contrast slider to the right, again improving the midtones
Hope that Helps
The problem can also be addressed in ACR. Opening the image in ACR gives you more sliders for adjustments.
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