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Post by Inspeqtor on Oct 18, 2020 5:21:41 GMT
Sepiana, When I first open Elements, and then load the RAW file I do see that window BEFORE I would click on "Open Image" that would then put the raw file into Elements. Before clicking on Open Image is when I would change the +2 or -2 Exposure setting. What I do not understand is how can I do both +2 or -2 before actually loading the RAW into Elements? If click on DONE after doing one. the Raw file does not load into Elements. If I click on Open Image after doing one of them, then the Raw is loaded into Elements so how do I then do the other one? I do hope you understand what I am asking here.
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Post by Inspeqtor on Oct 18, 2020 5:30:45 GMT
This took at most a minute and a half. All of my sky images are landscape orientation; I didn't figure it would look very good if a rotated the sky to portrait mode; so, I used Image > Transform > Free Transform to drag the sky tall enough to fit. I didn't take any pains in choosing the sky; I just grabbed the first one in the folder. As you can see from the layer stack, I used a Brightness/Contrast adjustment layer to darken the little limbs and leaves = Brightness -60 Contrast +28 To lessen the effect on the main trunk, I painted over it on the layer mask with Medium Grey. On the Sky layer, I set the blend mode to Darken and Opacity to 63% Then, to really make it "Pop", I used NIK > Color Efex Pro > Landscape > Pro Contrast with the Correct Contrast slider at 30% and Dynamic Contrast at 100% Other than the NIK, which is a free Elements Plug-in, everything was done with in-house Elements 7. I just wanted to show that, so long as your foreground elements are darker than the sky, you don't have to do a bunch of meticulous selecting to blend on a new sky; it is the Darken blend mode and playing with the opacity that does the trick. The sky is a photo that I purposefully took myself to add to my growing collection of sky photos. I hope this helps. Oh..., and by the way..., I wouldn't park my truck near that tree unless I had good insurance and still owed a lot of big payments. Did you do the first part in Elements? Is there a video you know of I could watch to learn how to do that? Otherwise I am clueless....
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Post by Sepiana on Oct 18, 2020 5:56:16 GMT
Sepiana, When I first open Elements, and then load the RAW file I do see that window BEFORE I would click on "Open Image" that would then put the raw file into Elements. Before clicking on Open Image is when I would change the +2 or -2 Exposure setting. What I do not understand is how can I do both +2 or -2 before actually loading the RAW into Elements? If click on DONE after doing one. the Raw file does not load into Elements. If I click on Open Image after doing one of them, then the Raw is loaded into Elements so how do I then do the other one? I do hope you understand what I am asking here. Charles, 1. Make two copies of the Raw file -- Copy 1 and Copy 2. 2. File>Open to bring both copies into the Raw Converter. 3. Change the exposure to +2 in Copy 1. 4. Change the exposure to -2 in Copy 2. Once you do this, then, you need to decide -- Done or Open Image.Done -- Applies the changes you made and dismisses the Raw Converter dialog without opening the file in Elements. Open Image -- Applies the changes you made and opens the file in Elements.
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Post by BuckSkin on Oct 18, 2020 6:01:21 GMT
Did you do the first part in Elements? Is there a video you know of I could watch to learn how to do that? Otherwise I am clueless.... Sorry; no video that I know of; others may have been doing exactly what I did for years, but I just sort of stumbled on it myself. Yes, everything is done in Elements, except for me using NIK (in Elements) on the finished product. The first step is simply a Brightness/Contrast adjustment layer; in the Layers palette, click on the little half-black/half-white circle to open the adjustment layer menu and select Brightness/Contrast. I then slid the Brightness left to -60 and the Contrast right to +28; these numbers just looked to be what I was after = enough darkness and contrast so that the limbs and leaves stood out from the sky without becoming obscured. I clicked on the Foreground color square; a color selector appeared, and I moved the little picker circle to midway up on the far left side = neutral grey. I then painted over the main tree trunk so as to lessen the effect of the Brightness/Contrast on that particular part of the image (on layer masks - Black completely hides, White completely reveals, and neutral grey hides/reveals 50/50 --- lighter shades of Grey reveal more - darker shades of Grey reveal less) The Brightness/Contrast layer is below the sky layer so that it has no effect on the sky. So long as the Brightness/Contrast is beneath the sky layer, you can click on the little gear thumbnail on the Brightness/Contrast layer and the editing dialogue will appear; thus, you can make adjustments with the sky layer in place and fine tune the settings to your liking. Once you get the sky and tree like you want it, then you can Layer > Merge Layers while holding the Alt key and this will yield a complete finished layer consisting of the layers beneath; you do the NIK to this layer. The NIK is completely optional and not a vital part of the process. I am not very good at explaining things; I hope this makes sense and is understandable.
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Post by Sepiana on Oct 18, 2020 6:32:25 GMT
Did you do the first part in Elements? Is there a video you know of I could watch to learn how to do that? Otherwise I am clueless.... Sorry; no video that I know of; others may have been doing exactly what I did for years, but I just sort of stumbled on it myself. Charles, this tutorial may not follow exactly the technique described by BuckSkin but it may help you. How to replace a sky behind trees with Photoshop Elements (video)
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Post by Inspeqtor on Oct 19, 2020 5:48:29 GMT
Did you do the first part in Elements? Is there a video you know of I could watch to learn how to do that? Otherwise I am clueless.... Charles, this tutorial may not follow exactly the technique described by BuckSkin but it may help you. How to replace a sky behind trees with Photoshop Elements (video) Thank you very much Sepiana!!!
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Post by Inspeqtor on Oct 19, 2020 6:32:27 GMT
Thank you very much Sepiana!!! Doing this step adding the Blue Sky does it make a difference if I use the Raw file, or will the change be the same if I work on a jped file?
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Post by BuckSkin on Oct 19, 2020 23:20:13 GMT
Thank you very much Sepiana!!! Doing this step adding the Blue Sky does it make a difference if I use the Raw file, or will the change be the same if I work on a jped file? I would start with the RAW image, ignore the sky since it will be replaced anyway, and make the rest of the image look as I wanted; then, do the sky replacement on the resulting jpeg. For what it is worth, I watched the video; and, while - no doubt - he knows what he is doing, his method is quite complicated compared to the method I used on the example I posted.
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Post by Sepiana on Oct 19, 2020 23:39:25 GMT
Thank you very much Sepiana!!! Doing this step adding the Blue Sky does it make a difference if I use the Raw file, or will the change be the same if I work on a jped file? Charles, you are most welcome. I would suggest you make all the necessary adjustments in the Raw Converter. Then, open the Raw file in the Editor, save it as either PSD or TIFF, and use either one to proceed with the sky replacement.
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Post by Inspeqtor on Oct 20, 2020 3:59:02 GMT
Doing this step adding the Blue Sky does it make a difference if I use the Raw file, or will the change be the same if I work on a jped file? I would start with the RAW image, ignore the sky since it will be replaced anyway, and make the rest of the image look as I wanted; then, do the sky replacement on the resulting jpeg. For what it is worth, I watched the video; and, while - no doubt - he knows what he is doing, his method is quite complicated compared to the method I used on the example I posted. I thought the same thing Buckskin, that his way was very complicated. I came back here to look at your instructions, and copy/paste them to my computer, especially since you said you got it done in under 2 minutes!
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Post by Inspeqtor on Oct 20, 2020 4:49:33 GMT
This took at most a minute and a half. All of my sky images are landscape orientation; I didn't figure it would look very good if a rotated the sky to portrait mode; so, I used Image > Transform > Free Transform to drag the sky tall enough to fit. I didn't take any pains in choosing the sky; I just grabbed the first one in the folder. As you can see from the layer stack, I used a Brightness/Contrast adjustment layer to darken the little limbs and leaves = Brightness -60 Contrast +28 To lessen the effect on the main trunk, I painted over it on the layer mask with Medium Grey. On the Sky layer, I set the blend mode to Darken and Opacity to 63% Then, to really make it "Pop", I used NIK > Color Efex Pro > Landscape > Pro Contrast with the Correct Contrast slider at 30% and Dynamic Contrast at 100% Other than the NIK, which is a free Elements Plug-in, everything was done with in-house Elements 7. I just wanted to show that, so long as your foreground elements are darker than the sky, you don't have to do a bunch of meticulous selecting to blend on a new sky; it is the Darken blend mode and playing with the opacity that does the trick. The sky is a photo that I purposefully took myself to add to my growing collection of sky photos. I hope this helps. Oh..., and by the way..., I wouldn't park my truck near that tree unless I had good insurance and still owed a lot of big payments. As you can see from my screenshot I do not know how to change the Brightness/Contrast as you did Buckskin. How did you get the outline of the tree trunk in your layer? Why don't you think that tree is not very safe? Just curious! Is it possible to take the tree picture out of this to take up less room when I quote a post? Thank you!
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Post by BuckSkin on Oct 20, 2020 7:14:24 GMT
1. As you can see from my screenshot I do not know how to change the Brightness/Contrast as you did Buckskin. 2. How did you get the outline of the tree trunk in your layer? 3. Why don't you think that tree is not very safe? Just curious! 4. Is it possible to take the tree picture out of this to take up less room when I quote a post? Thank you! 1. When you first brought up that Brightness/Contrast adjustment layer, there should have been three adjustment sliders, Brightness, Contrast, and Midtone some-such-or-other; you can move the sliders or just enter the numbers in the little boxes. If the adjustment layer is already in the layer stack, such as in your example, double-click on the little gears icon and it will open back up and you can then move the sliders or enter the numbers. You don't have to use the same numbers that I did; you can change them to suit your eye. 2. I clicked on that layer mask thumbnail to select it (make it active); I clicked on the little foreground/background color squares thing and chose Medium Grey from the color-picker; and, with a soft brush, I painted the tree truck. You don't have to be meticulous about this; just sort of get close to the edges; it does not have to be perfect. 3. That thing is hollow and rotten. 4. One way is to click the cursor in front of any part you want to eliminate; then, hold Shift and click the end of it; this should highlight the selected part and turn it blue; hit the Delete key and it should disappear. Hopefully someone who is better at explaining things will provide a better explanation for number 4.
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Post by Inspeqtor on Oct 20, 2020 14:18:49 GMT
1. As you can see from my screenshot I do not know how to change the Brightness/Contrast as you did Buckskin. 2. How did you get the outline of the tree trunk in your layer? 3. Why don't you think that tree is not very safe? Just curious! 4. Is it possible to take the tree picture out of this to take up less room when I quote a post? Thank you! 1. When you first brought up that Brightness/Contrast adjustment layer, there should have been three adjustment sliders, Brightness, Contrast, and Midtone some-such-or-other; you can move the sliders or just enter the numbers in the little boxes. If the adjustment layer is already in the layer stack, such as in your example, double-click on the little gears icon and it will open back up and you can then move the sliders or enter the numbers. You don't have to use the same numbers that I did; you can change them to suit your eye. 2. I clicked on that layer mask thumbnail to select it (make it active); I clicked on the little foreground/background color squares thing and chose Medium Grey from the color-picker; and, with a soft brush, I painted the tree truck. You don't have to be meticulous about this; just sort of get close to the edges; it does not have to be perfect. 3. That thing is hollow and rotten. 4. One way is to click the cursor in front of any part you want to eliminate; then, hold Shift and click the end of it; this should highlight the selected part and turn it blue; hit the Delete key and it should disappear. Hopefully someone who is better at explaining things will provide a better explanation for number 4. I am thinking I must not have brought up the same Brightness Contrast layer as what you did, as I do not have the same "gear" shape in my layer as what you have, plus I only have 2 sliders, not 3 sliders. Here is what mine looks like when I first bring it up. The RED arrows shows where I found the B&C layer from the drop down menu. You must know more about trees and how to "read" them than I do, cuz I don't see that!
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Post by Sepiana on Oct 20, 2020 15:41:06 GMT
I am thinking I must not have brought up the same Brightness Contrast layer as what you did, as I do not have the same "gear" shape in my layer as what you have, plus I only have 2 sliders, not 3 sliders. Charles, You brought up the same Brightness/Contrast adjustment layer as BuckSkin. The difference in the thumbnail icon can be easily explained. He is using PSE 7; you are using PSE 2020. This change was part of the massive overhaul of the PSE interface Adobe did back in version 11. The three sliders he is talking about have to do with a different adjustment -- Shadows/Highlights. It's not available as an adjustment layer; it's accessed via Enhance>Adjust Lighting>Shadows/Highlights. NOTE:Adobe made a change in the Shadows/Highlights dialog. In earlier PSE versions, the default percentage for the Lighten Shadows slider is 25%. Starting with PSE 11, the default is 35%.
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Post by Inspeqtor on Oct 20, 2020 16:53:49 GMT
I am thinking I must not have brought up the same Brightness Contrast layer as what you did, as I do not have the same "gear" shape in my layer as what you have, plus I only have 2 sliders, not 3 sliders. Charles, You brought up the same Brightness/Contrast adjustment layer as BuckSkin. The difference in the thumbnail icon can be easily explained. He is using PSE 7; you are using PSE 2020. This change was part of the massive overhaul of the PSE interface Adobe did back in version 11. The three sliders he is talking about have to do with a different adjustment -- Shadows/Highlights. It's not available as an adjustment layer; it's accessed via Enhance>Adjust Lighting>Shadows/Highlights. NOTE:Adobe made a change in the Shadows/Highlights dialog. In earlier PSE versions, the default percentage for the Lighten Shadows slider is 25%. Starting with PSE 11, the default is 35%. I knew he has Elements 7, and I did wonder if that was part of the reason for part of the difference. But why in his layer screen shot does he have the shape of the tree and my layer is completely empty? What did I not do that needed to be done? Thank you!!
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