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Post by tourerjim on Nov 20, 2020 10:33:32 GMT
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Post by Chris on Nov 20, 2020 21:10:31 GMT
Thanks for sharing tourjim. Actually for those who do not have a hardware device to calibrate their monitor, the Lagom test images are the next best thing. Some may find the single page version more practical. Single page version www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/all_tests.phpAnother useful took is the quick gamma programe. quickgamma.de/indexen.htmlOne of the Lagom test images is for gamma adjustment. Using the quick gamma tool you can adjust gamma to the recommended specification. (Tip when adjusting gamma, eye level should be at right angles to the middle of the screen and not at an angle) Kind regards Chris |
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Post by tourerjim on Nov 20, 2020 22:13:54 GMT
Chris your second links broken. Also if your running NVIDIA Right Click Desktop and click on NVIDIA Control Panel and check the NVIDIA bullet and then using Chris link www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/all_tests.php is an easy way to test  |
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Post by tonyw on Nov 20, 2020 22:31:04 GMT
Chris your second links broken. Also if your running NVIDIA Right Click Desktop and click on NVIDIA Control Panel and check the NVIDIA bullet and then using Chris link www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/all_tests.php is an easy way to test That sounds good as I do have NVIDIA graphics but I'm not quite sure how you use that link to test. I have an old Spyder 4 but it's not supported any more so starting to wonder how good my color management is - especially as I have two screens and they don't quite match. Tony |
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Post by pontiac1940 on Nov 21, 2020 3:20:06 GMT
Thanks tourerjim I've solved calibration by ignoring it.  Once upon a time, I had a device called a Huey or something. I checked the monitor every few months and made minor tweaks. But for years I've done nothing. My prints look like they should. So I went though the process at lagom <.> nl and at first made small changes to the brightness and contrast, but it all went off the rails at gamma. Look at the image below, and take a few steps back from your monitor such that you don't see the individual pixels or squint your eyes. In each of the vertical color bars, the lighter and darker bands should blend in at the height labeled "2.2", which is the gamma setting.
Ugh, I could not achieved what is bolded. Nope. There was some blending well below 2 for some color bands. To improve the blending, the gamma setting was off the rails and nothing looked good and even then the " bands should blend" were still nowhere near 2.2. My monitor is an ASUS VZ279H .. just bought it 3 or 4 months ago. Quite happy with it. So right now, it is back at default as show in you NVIDIA screen shot. Will see if I can connect to Chris's "quickgamma" site. EDIT: I found it and started to download the exe program, but since it seems to be in German, I aborted.
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Post by Chris on Nov 21, 2020 8:01:18 GMT
Thanks tourerjim. I have fixed the broken link for the quickgamma page. Yes its true that most graphics card software like Nvidea also has a gamma adjustment. This link should be good Quickgamma (English and German pages available) quickgamma.de/indexen.htmlI used to use the English version of quickgamma and the Lagom test images some years ago when I was running win 7. Then I switched to a Spyder 2 and later to a Spyder 4. I have recently ordered a Spyder X Tonyw, I am using a Spyder4 on Windows 10 without any problems. You can download the latest version of the software here: support.datacolor.com/index.php?/Knowledgebase/List/Index/105/legacy-productsOr: goto.datacolor.com/downloads/Spyder4ProPontiac1940, apart from the screen to print match issue, the advantage of calibrating is that you will see what everyone else should see when editing. Kind regards Chris |
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Post by tourerjim on Nov 21, 2020 9:22:47 GMT
Chris your second links broken. Also if your running NVIDIA Right Click Desktop and click on NVIDIA Control Panel and check the NVIDIA bullet and then using Chris link www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/all_tests.php is an easy way to test That sounds good as I do have NVIDIA graphics but I'm not quite sure how you use that link to test. I have an old Spyder 4 but it's not supported any more so starting to wonder how good my color management is - especially as I have two screens and they don't quite match. Tony I have a 17inch laptop with my own specs built into it and could never get the screen calibrated to my liking and some time a go friend of mine said to do screen calibration but skip through the contrast and adjust contrast in NVDIA, he also gave me the Lagon link at the time but said for best results use a picture from your camera that has lots of colours. I also remember he mentioned we all look at colour screens in different ways ether sitting angles or maybe you wear glasses which was the reason he said it's best using you own pictures. |
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Post by Chris on Nov 21, 2020 11:05:28 GMT
Tourerjim, older screens and laptops in general vary a lot according to viewing angle. Newer IPS monitors have a much wider acceptable viewing angle. Do the tests as you would normally view the monitor. Preferably looking on at right angles to the centre of the screen. Personally, I find the screen calibration test pages to be better for adjusting a monitor. Pictures can be useful though when testing printer output. If you Google "Printer test images" you will find lots of hits. If you choose to adjust contrast, brightness and gamma with the Nvidia panel then I would suggest the monitor is set to its factory default settings for brightness and contrast etc. Gamma can be tricky to adjust. As Pontiac1940 previously quoted for gamma test images like the one from Lagom: Look at the image below, and take a few steps back from your monitor such that you don't see the individual pixels or squint your eyes. In each of the vertical color bars, the lighter and darker bands should blend in at the height labeled "2.2", which is the gamma setting. If you find the Lagom gamma test difficult to use you can try this different test image: www.hellotech.com/guide/for/how-to-calibrate-monitor-windows-10Download image here: upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e5/Gamma_correction_test_picture.pngYou need to adjust gamma until the images blend in. Kind regards Chris |
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Post by tourerjim on Nov 21, 2020 13:55:45 GMT
Tourerjim, older screens and laptops in general vary a lot according to viewing angle. Newer IPS monitors have a much wider acceptable viewing angle. Do the tests as you would normally view the monitor. Preferably looking on at right angles to the centre of the screen. Personally, I find the screen calibration test pages to be better for adjusting a monitor. Pictures can be useful though when testing printer output. If you Google "Printer test images" you will find lots of hits. If you choose to adjust contrast, brightness and gamma with the Nvidia panel then I would suggest the monitor is set to its factory default settings for brightness and contrast etc. Gamma can be tricky to adjust. As Pontiac1940 previously quoted for gamma test images like the one from Lagom: Look at the image below, and take a few steps back from your monitor such that you don't see the individual pixels or squint your eyes. In each of the vertical color bars, the lighter and darker bands should blend in at the height labeled "2.2", which is the gamma setting. If you find the Lagom gamma test difficult to use you can try this different test image: www.hellotech.com/guide/for/how-to-calibrate-monitor-windows-10Download image here: upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e5/Gamma_correction_test_picture.pngYou need to adjust gamma until the images blend in. Kind regards Chris Thanks Chris it was an old email I found from my old mate from when I first got my laptop and I was never that clued up at the time I found his instructions seem to work well but that's an interesting one to try out Chris thanks |
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Post by tourerjim on Nov 21, 2020 13:58:06 GMT
Thanks tourerjim I've solved calibration by ignoring it. Once upon a time, I had a device called a Huey or something. I checked the monitor every few months and made minor tweaks. But for years I've done nothing. My prints look like they should. So I went though the process at lagom <.> nl and at first made small changes to the brightness and contrast, but it all went off the rails at gamma. Look at the image below, and take a few steps back from your monitor such that you don't see the individual pixels or squint your eyes. In each of the vertical color bars, the lighter and darker bands should blend in at the height labeled "2.2", which is the gamma setting.
Ugh, I could not achieved what is bolded. Nope. There was some blending well below 2 for some color bands. To improve the blending, the gamma setting was off the rails and nothing looked good and even then the " bands should blend" were still nowhere near 2.2. My monitor is an ASUS VZ279H .. just bought it 3 or 4 months ago. Quite happy with it. So right now, it is back at default as show in you NVIDIA screen shot. Will see if I can connect to Chris's "quickgamma" site. EDIT: I found it and started to download the exe program, but since it seems to be in German, I aborted.
Clive Hi Tony would you let us know how you get on with the quickgamma |
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Post by tourerjim on Nov 23, 2020 14:11:30 GMT
How do you adjust the contrast when you go through the windows default screen calibration, no matter how many times I go through the test just cant get rid of the screens haze, if I do it through NVIDIA I can get the screen test spot on with the link Chris shows,
This was the problem I had when I first got the laptop, even my picture look hazy.
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Post by Chris on Nov 23, 2020 14:57:48 GMT
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Post by tourerjim on Nov 25, 2020 19:37:43 GMT
Windows 10 Chris, had a reply from my mate just telling me to keep with NVIDIA Color Management.
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Once upon a time, I had a device called a Huey or something. I checked the monitor every few months and made minor tweaks. But for years I've done nothing. My prints look like they should.