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Post by srmoment on Sept 23, 2021 20:11:03 GMT
I can't figure out which On12022 files to copy to Elements plug-in files......
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Post by Sepiana on Sept 23, 2021 20:23:52 GMT
Pat, run the installer and follow the steps. The installer will find Elements to install the plug-in version.
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Post by srmoment on Sept 23, 2021 21:01:03 GMT
Sepiana, do you mean the On1 installer? I did run that and did not see that message.... I'll try again.
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Post by srmoment on Sept 23, 2021 21:57:10 GMT
YIKES!!! I discovered that you need to activate On1 2022, call in the image you are working on - THEN under File there is a menu item which sends the file back over to Elements for processing. ....which means that you can no longer call the file in Elements first and use On1 as a plug-in!
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Post by hmca on Sept 23, 2021 23:51:50 GMT
.which means that you can no longer call the file in Elements first and use On1 as a plug-in! The same with PSCC.....disappointing.
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pete61
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Post by pete61 on Sept 24, 2021 15:32:19 GMT
This from the On1 website (note the last sentence): " Note: Starting with version 2022, plugin capability will be separate from Photo RAW. However, each new editing technology provided in the plugins is included in the Photo RAW 2022 workflow. These individual 2022 apps/plugins (NoNoise AI, Effects, Resize, Portrait AI, HDR) are fully integrated inside Photo RAW 2022, but they can also be purchased separately to be used as plugins." UGH!
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Post by Sepiana on Sept 24, 2021 18:01:17 GMT
you can no longer call the file in Elements first and use On1 as a plug-in Pat, It looks like you need to purchase the "ultimate" package if you want to use Photo RAW 2022 as a plug-in in Elements (or Photoshop). Check what Anthony Morganti has to say about it. First Look On1 Photo RAW 2022 - GOOD & BAD
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pete61
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Post by pete61 on Sept 25, 2021 16:07:41 GMT
Morganti has come back with another video which demonstrates how to use Photo RAW 2022 as a plug-in in Lightroom Classic. Although rather kludgy it's good news for LR users who also use On1. YES! You Can Get On1 Photo Raw 2022 to Work as a LIGHTROOM PLUGIN! www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1NWmP5a5bA
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Post by Peterj on Sept 27, 2021 14:51:04 GMT
YIKES!!! I discovered that you need to activate On1 2022, call in the image you are working on - THEN under File there is a menu item which sends the file back over to Elements for processing. ....which means that you can no longer call the file in Elements first and use On1 as a plug-in! Something to consider ... Open the file in On1 to take full advantage of NoNoise AI and other tonal adjustments then send the file with adjustments made to Elements. The disadvantage doing this is On1 will create another file (jpg, tiff, psd) with your adjustments "baked in". The plugin capability was deprecated in version 2022; the professional pack include the plugins ... they're not yet available.
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Post by BuckSkin on Sept 27, 2021 16:22:11 GMT
Open the file in On1 to take full advantage of NoNoise AI and other tonal adjustments then send the file with adjustments made to Elements. The disadvantage doing this is On1 will create another file (jpg, tiff, psd) with your adjustments "baked in".
Although I don't have the programs in question, this is how I have always handled stand-alone programs that do not work directly within Elements as an added layer, and that create a separate "baked in" file: I use Elements to work up to the point that I am ready for the stand-alone program and save that file, first as a layered PSD, and then in whatever least destructive format the stand-alone will accept. I open that file in the stand-alone and do it's thing, then save that work either as a write-over to the file that it started with, or as a PSD if it is capable of that. Back to Elements, where my original layer stack should be there waiting, I Open the stand-alone program's file in Elements and display the open files as "Tiles" I click the stand-alone file to make it active in the layer stack and drag/drop it onto the tiled window of my original PSD stack; no special tools or maneuvers are necessary for this drag/drop procedure; just mouse over the layer thumbnail, click-and-hold to grab and hold it, then hold the Shift key while dropping it where you want it. Holding the Shift key makes it land perfectly center so I don't have to relocate it with the Move tool. Now, you can change the layer mode and adjust the opacity to suit. Once I get what I want safely in my layer stack and the finished image saved, I delete any extra files that were created in the process as I have what I need in my layer stack and will never need them again. While not quite so quick and handy as working as a plug-in, my process yields the exact same result in the end. It is very important to ALWAYS keep your original jpeg as the Background layer of the finished image, no matter what else you may do nor whatever other programs and processes are used, that original Background layer governs whatever metadata the end result will have and display; many programs and plug-ins will corrupt or completely strip this data and if you don't incorporate their product as a layer over the original, that data is lost. Before trusting any program to maintain a files metadata and preserve it in the saved file, load some test files with all possible data, EXIF, XMP, IPTC, GPS, Keyword Tags, and Embedded Comments; run these test files through the program and compare the resulting files' metadata with that of your test files, paying especial attention to Date Taken, as this is the most common field to get corrupted. Don't completely trust Adobe programs to preserve your data either; I always have to check behind Elements and PS and replace whatever data they have corrupted, although they are not as bad for it as some programs, they are not completely trustworthy either.
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