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Post by BuckSkin on Jan 2, 2022 18:55:55 GMT
“Annually I go through my photos trying to purge duplicates or similar pictures - but that isn't very successful as I can always come up with a reason not to delete a picture” Yep, that’s me, too. Deleting is so permanent and I have the hard drive space… This applies to all aspects in life and is why newlyweds use the trunk and back seat of a small car when they first move in; and, twenty years later, ten semi-trailers wouldn't move them out. In every "event" folder, I have a "Culls" folder and a "Redundants" folder; I put the definite Culls in the Culls folder and the Redundants in the Redundants folder. When I get the entire group edited and finished, I glance through these two folders to make certain a drag/drop didn't inadvertently find it's way in there and then DELETE them forever. By "event" I am meaning a group of photos (or single photo) taken on any specific day; it does not necessarily have to be an event as such. |
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Post by cats4jan on Jan 2, 2022 19:21:50 GMT
I’ve moved 13 times - that’s when I purge. I can be brutal. One move - the only thing I regretted tossing was a $4 curtain rod - which it turns out I could’ve used in the new place.
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Post by stinson on Jan 2, 2022 22:24:08 GMT
“Annually I go through my photos trying to purge duplicates or similar pictures - but that isn't very successful as I can always come up with a reason not to delete a picture” Yep, that’s me, too. Deleting is so permanent and I have the hard drive space… Yeah cause when the paw moves a half inch its hard to decide which is the better shot.  This post was written by a Hooligan. |
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Post by cats4jan on Jan 2, 2022 22:26:12 GMT
You really need to take the “mouse” away from the cat
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Post by Sepiana on Jan 3, 2022 0:54:06 GMT
I open the 'My Folders' Panel on the left-hand side of the Organizer and click on the photos on my C drive in the Dec 2020 folder;
go to File and click 'Copy/Move to removable Drive';
Click 'yes' when it asks if I'm sure;
then I get 'Elements Organizer has encountered a problem and needs to close' and it does just that. I have no idea of the reason of the error message. The simpler tool to move selectd files elsewhere in an existing or to be created folder is not the move to removable drive, it's the simple File > move (shortcut Ctrl Shift V). ChrisAnn and Michel, This issue of Elements crashing when File>Copy/Move to Removable Drive is used piqued my curiosity. I don't think I have ever used this command. I do File>Move. I decided to test it. Lo and behold! PSE 2022 froze/crashed and that error message popped up. I tried several times and the crash continued. Then, I had this "bright" idea -- run Elements as administrator. Bingo! Success story! Next, I closed Elements, re-opened it as a standard user, and tested that command. No crash, no error message! |
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Post by michelb on Jan 3, 2022 8:06:21 GMT
All organizer users must use the integrated backup solution, which solves the problem of migration of catalog together with library, but requires hours for a big library. The last two versions of the organizer offer a very fast backup of the catalog folder only; I choose to run it or not at the end of each editing session. My back up process is completely separate with a complete back-up annually (it takes hours, usually overnight unless the computer 'goes to sleep') follow by incremental backups - all through Organizer. As both of you seem to prefer using the Organizer’s backup/restore integrated solutions (as so many Organizer users do), I have a question. I believe your answers will benefit Organizer users. As you know, I have a small catalog. I mostly use the Organizer for "things" related to this forum. For my personal use, I depend on Lightroom. Since Adobe introduced automatic back-up/restore catalog structure in PSE 2021, I have played around with different frequency settings. However, I’m still not sure which one to use. Based on your experience, which variables should be taken into consideration when choosing a frequency setting?
Sepiana (and Buckskin) You might be interested by my last answer in the Adobe Elements forum:
My advice in your case is to use the new option regularly. After closing each session I am asked to backup or skip. That does not take long and always makes a catalog check. You need to do regular full backups from the organizer or your preferred backup/syncing solution. In your case a syncing to Dropbox or OneDrive would be a good idea. Backup solutions like Acronis or one of the many free solutions available. With organizer backups, maybe a weekly full backup (night job for bigger libraries) would be good. Together with external tools, I also recommend organizer backups every month or every quarter. At least you should do it to migrate to a new computer or drive.
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Post by michelb on Jan 3, 2022 8:19:59 GMT
Actually, when I think about this, one could use Synchredible to make a duplicate of their Organizer Catalog(s) Drive(s); and, should something go haywire, simply change the drive letter of the backup and the Organizer never know the difference, right ? Since catalogs can be stored, copied or moved nearly anywhere, the simplest solution is to make a simple catalog copy. Changing the drive letter: That's the trap. In Windows, drive letters are assigned depending on the first available letter after the current devices are plugged in. Except if you assign a letter in the bottom list of the alphabet, like X, Y, Z... So Adobe programmed the catalog to also store the internal serial number of the drive to find photos even if the letter drive has changed in between. You get that internal number with the DOS command 'vol x:' So, if you change the drive letter, that's not enough, the organizer recognizes if the drive has been changed. Note that with 'cloned' drives, the serial numbere is also cloned and I suspect that is what you are describing with synchredible. The solution for me is to use a database editor to update the database. Some know how to use Windows commands to assign the same drive number as the old one or to clone the drive. That can work while respecting some conditions to avoid fooling the database with duplicate serial numbers or letters. For instance, you can't use the reformated original drive at the same time...
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Post by BuckSkin on Jan 3, 2022 16:22:04 GMT
When I use Disk Management, or much better yet EaseUS Partition Manager, to assign drive letters, that letter is "permanently" assigned to that drive, even after being disconnected and reconnected.
I permanently assigned drive letters to me card readers as well so I don't get any surprises.
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Post by Sepiana on Jan 3, 2022 16:38:47 GMT
As both of you seem to prefer using the Organizer’s backup/restore integrated solutions (as so many Organizer users do), I have a question. I believe your answers will benefit Organizer users. As you know, I have a small catalog. I mostly use the Organizer for "things" related to this forum. For my personal use, I depend on Lightroom. Since Adobe introduced automatic back-up/restore catalog structure in PSE 2021, I have played around with different frequency settings. However, I’m still not sure which one to use. Based on your experience, which variables should be taken into consideration when choosing a frequency setting? Sepiana (and Buckskin) You might be interested by my last answer in the Adobe Elements forum: My advice in your case is to use the new option regularly. After closing each session I am asked to backup or skip. That does not take long and always makes a catalog check. Michel, thanks so much for taking the time to answer my question! Following on your expert advice, I set Automatic Update to "On every exit". I noticed the speed of this process has improved. (As a side note, this is one of the best features Adobe introduced in the Organizer).Thanks also for the link to your post in the Adobe Elements forum! I took a screen shot and printed it. In this way, I can easily refer back to it. |
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