HappyScot
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Post by HappyScot on Jan 4, 2022 17:45:26 GMT
Just bought it through the Groupon code - worked out at £66 for Photoshop Elements and Premier Elements 2022.
Hopefully I have managed to install all my various actions, brushes and Nik collection! Time will tell! Unfortunately I can't set the whatever to 200% this time to make the tool icons bigger as I lose half of them and there is no way to enlarge the tool ribbon (I don't think).
If anyone has any ideas let me know. My display is set to 2560x1440 which is the recommended one but ........
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Post by Sepiana on Jan 4, 2022 22:39:32 GMT
Hi HappyScot, I also have PSE 2022. The display setting you have shouldn't be a problem (2560x1440). It meets Adobe system requirements for this Elements version. I assume you are talking about setting the UI Scale Factor to 200% (Edit>Preferences>Display & Cursors> . . .). Have you tried setting it to "Automatic"? |
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HappyScot
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Post by HappyScot on Jan 4, 2022 23:37:25 GMT
Yes. They are both the same unfortunately!! Could really do with a 125% option!!
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Post by Sepiana on Jan 7, 2022 3:18:30 GMT
Hi HappyScot,
I'm still giving some thought to your problem. I have another question.
Have you tried going to Display Settings > Scale and Layout? You are given a range of 100% to 350% and you can change the settings in small increments. I'm not sure it will help by it's worth trying.
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HappyScot
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Post by HappyScot on Jan 7, 2022 10:14:20 GMT
I have tried that. But it doesn't change the text size in PE. I'm sure it has to do with the resolution figures so having a play with that today.  |
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Post by HappyScot on Jan 7, 2022 13:30:02 GMT
Played around with display resolution and this is a happy medium I think.  |
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Post by Sepiana on Jan 7, 2022 14:44:17 GMT
HappyScot,
Yes, adjusting the display resolution made a difference. The icons in the Tools panel seem larger.
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Post by Sepiana on Jan 7, 2022 20:56:08 GMT
HappyScot, I'm coming back here because I'm curious. How do the menus look in PSE 2022 after you adjusted the UI Scale Factor in Elements (Edit > Preferences) and your monitor settings (Scale and Layout)? I have two monitors. My "workhorse" one has a 3840 x 2160 resolution (recommended). The Scale and Layout is set to 200%. The UI Scale Factor in both PSE 2021 and PSE 2022 is set to "Automatic". See the difference between PSE 2021 and PSE 2022. It's much easier to read the menus in PSE 2022.
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HappyScot
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Post by HappyScot on Jan 9, 2022 16:22:08 GMT
My monitor is now set to 1920x1080 and the UI to Automatic. Changing the Scale of the display in windows (normally set to 125%) does not affect the size of the text within PE. It does affec
t the size of the text most other places!
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Post by Sepiana on Jan 12, 2022 2:42:11 GMT
I'm coming back here because I'm curious. How do the menus look in PSE 2022 after you adjusted the UI Scale Factor in Elements (Edit > Preferences) and your monitor settings (Scale and Layout)? My monitor is now set to 1920x1080 and the UI to Automatic. Changing the Scale of the display in windows (normally set to 125%) does not affect the size of the text within PE. It does affect the size of the text most other places! HappyScot, Thanks for answering my question! It's a pity it had no effect on the text size within PSE 2022. Now I'm curious why I ended up with this HUGE text size in PSE 2022 menus as shown in my screenshot. |
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Post by michelb on Jan 12, 2022 8:40:49 GMT
My monitor is now set to 1920x1080 and the UI to Automatic. Changing the Scale of the display in windows (normally set to 125%) does not affect the size of the text within PE. It does affect the size of the text most other places! HappyScot, Thanks for answering my question! It's a pity it had no effect on the text size within PSE 2022. Now I'm curious why I ended up with this HUGE text size in PSE 2022 menus as shown in my screenshot. There has been no detailed explanation from Adobe about the change in font size for the drop-down menus in the editor 2022 apart from a couple of answers by Adobe Staff in the Adobe Elements forum. They said they had 'solved' the problem of tiny text in the new version. Indeed, the font size is bigger and in my situation with desktops in 1920 x1080 and about 20" that's better for my old eyes. Sometime I have to think to scroll down completely to see the bottom options. For a laptop with same resolution in 15" the text is too small for my old eyes and the acceptable solution for me is to use Windows to set the display (not only the text) to a lower resolution.
The organizer interface has been totally changed with PSE11 and it can follow the Windows text settings contrary to the editor.
That's already nearly 10 years ago that hi res (4k) monitor were offered. The way the editor interface (the text and icons) is displayed on Windows could not be scaled. If I remember well, it's from PSE13 that a workaround to use 100 or 200% scale factor was introduced to accomodate the new monitors. Contrary to what some think, switching to a flexible interface like in modern softwares is practically impossible without re-writing everything in the interface. That would drastically change the menus (number of horizontal/vertical items - introducing new menu levels etc.) Such menu changes would bring a huge flow of protests.
The problem today is that the trend towards more hi res and shorter displays (laptops, tablets, phones - while a huge number of current users of Elements still use vertical resolutions under the minimum required 800 pixels) would require a different interface; something like a 'phone' interface version, a 'laptop' or a 'tablet' one as well as a 'legacy' one for old laptops.
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Post by Sepiana on Jan 12, 2022 17:27:09 GMT
Now I'm curious why I ended up with this HUGE text size in PSE 2022 menus as shown in my screenshot. There has been no detailed explanation from Adobe about the change in font size for the drop-down menus in the editor 2022 apart from a couple of answers by Adobe Staff in the Adobe Elements forum. They said they had 'solved' the problem of tiny text in the new version. The organizer interface has been totally changed with PSE11 and it can follow the Windows text settings contrary to the editor. That's already nearly 10 years ago that hi res (4k) monitor were offered. The way the editor interface (the text and icons) is displayed on Windows could not be scaled. If I remember well, it's from PSE13 that a workaround to use 100 or 200% scale factor was introduced to accomodate the new monitors. Michel, thanks so much! Your explanation satisfied my curiosity. Here is my scenario. Monitor #1 -- 3840 x 2160 resolution Monitor #2 -- 2736 x 1824 resolution I was very happy to see how the text size in the Organizer's menus started looking bigger in an earlier PSE version. I wished Adobe would do the same for the Editor. My wish came true with PSE 2022. But, as the saying goes, . . . "Be careful what you wish for." Some of the Editor's menus take over the whole length of the workspace in this version. I remember when earlier PSE versions showed a three-head cursor for some tools in the Editor. The solution was to reduce the Windows text size to less than 150% (149% would do just fine). Fortunately, this is no longer a problem. Adobe recoded PSE with the release of v10. Now PSE abides by Microsoft user-interface standards which require applications to support text sizes larger than 100%. |
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