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Post by Inspeqtor on Mar 6, 2022 13:03:47 GMT
More from Albert  Scan 047-b by inspeqtor, on Flickr 
Scan 048-c by inspeqtor, on Flickr  Scan 049-a by inspeqtor, on Flickr  Scan 049-d by inspeqtor, on Flickr  Scan 050-a by inspeqtor, on Flickr  Scan 050-b by inspeqtor, on Flickr  Scan 050-c by inspeqtor, on Flickr  Scan 051-b by inspeqtor, on Flickr  Scan 051-c by inspeqtor, on Flickr This is a very interesting shot! Scan 052-c by inspeqtor, on Flickr This gymnasium was decorated for fun!
 Scan 053-b by inspeqtor, on Flickr A very nice winter scene Scan 053-d by inspeqtor, on Flickr  Scan 054-c by inspeqtor, on Flickr  Scan 059-c by inspeqtor, on Flickr |
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Post by BuckSkin on Mar 6, 2022 15:36:45 GMT
This gymnasium was decorated for fun! I like that there are no basketball markings on the floor and no visible basketball goals, nor any evidence that I can see of any "sport" at all. Here where I live, even the churches are marked off for basketball and one can't go anywhere without hearing the constant thwump - thwump - thwump of balls being bounced on the floor. |
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Post by BuckSkin on Mar 6, 2022 16:02:42 GMT
This gymnasium was decorated for fun! As best I can determine, that is a 46-star flag, legal from 4th of July-1908 until 4th of July-1912, when it was replaced with the 48-star flag. I have a high quality, sewn and embroidered, 48-star flag that I bought at a yard sale for a dollar way back in the 1970s. At the time, it was folded square, like a bath towel or bed-sheet, and I had no idea that it wasn't a 50-star flag. I managed to hang on to it all these years; alas, several years ago, hateful mice got in the drawer it was in and made a couple holes in it; before that, it was good as brand-new. |
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Post by Inspeqtor on Mar 6, 2022 16:46:41 GMT
This gymnasium was decorated for fun! As best I can determine, that is a 46-star flag, legal from 4th of July-1908 until 4th of July-1912, when it was replaced with the 48-star flag. I have a high quality, sewn and embroidered, 48-star flag that I bought at a yard sale for a dollar way back in the 1970s. At the time, it was folded square, like a bath towel or bed-sheet, and I had no idea that it wasn't a 50-star flag. I managed to hang on to it all these years; alas, several years ago, hateful mice got in the drawer it was in and made a couple holes in it; before that, it was good as brand-new. Oh that is so very sad. That is terrible the mice got to your wonderful old flag and put holes in it. I am truly sorry that happened. I never thought to try and figure out how many stars were in the flag in the gymnasium. BuckSkin you are truly one of a kind person to think about doing that!! |
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Post by Chris on Mar 7, 2022 20:59:42 GMT
The boy on the left sure has a mean look on his face!!! LOL!! To me I do NOT see any rails on the ground!!  This is an amazing picture but the mystery of the missing rails has got me totally stumped. www.flickr.com/photos/inspeqtor/51880258694/I thought of various possibilities. 1- The grass has grown over the rails. - I rejected this possibility because the grass is quite short. You can see where the people are standing at ground level. 2- The rails have sunk into the mud. - That seems very unlikely after studying the photo closely. Also why is the train backed against a tree? 3- There is something hard and firm under the locomotive to support it. - Maybe but I can't see any evidence of that. Well they didn't have photoshop in those days, so what we see must be real. I wonder if this grand locomotive has been retired. I have no idea how they could have got it there and backed it up against a tree. They didn't have tractors in those days. Maybe with ropes and horses? But there are no drag lines in the soil. Was it disassembled and reassembled on location? If so, why hasn't it sunk into the soil? The mind boggles! After studying the picture closely, I am amazed at the craftmanship involved in making this locomotive. They didn't have a giant machine in Detroit pressing out the panels and welding by robot. It all had to be done by blacksmiths and panel beaters and riveters tirelessly working their hammers. This is an intricate work of art! Kind regards Chris |
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Post by BuckSkin on Mar 7, 2022 22:37:04 GMT
You can pile wet leaves on the rails and hang a locomotive; I don't see how it could possibly have propelled itself to where it sits.
I don't see what is preventing it just sinking in the ground.
I might could see a derailment causing it to come to rest there, having enough momentum before leaving the rails; but, I still don't see what kept it from sinking to the axles.
Locomotives are HEAVY, REAL HEAVY; maybe it is a mystery that we will never know the truth about.
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Post by Inspeqtor on Mar 8, 2022 6:33:09 GMT
You can pile wet leaves on the rails and hang a locomotive; I don't see how it could possibly have propelled itself to where it sits. I don't see what is preventing it just sinking in the ground. I might could see a derailment causing it to come to rest there, having enough momentum before leaving the rails; but, I still don't see what kept it from sinking to the axles. Locomotives are HEAVY, REAL HEAVY; maybe it is a mystery that we will never know the truth about. Plus we do not know if the locomotive is still there today or if it has been moved to another location. It would have been nice if there were a way for us to know where Albert found this locomotive's location. I also wondered about the locomotive not being on rails, and how much it would sink into the soft ground. |
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Post by hmca on Mar 8, 2022 15:51:14 GMT
It would have been nice if there were a way for us to know where Albert found this locomotive's location. I have been following this discussion. While not knowing where exactly, do you have any idea what state the picture may have been taken in? |
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Post by Inspeqtor on Mar 8, 2022 15:56:48 GMT
It would have been nice if there were a way for us to know where Albert found this locomotive's location. I have been following this discussion. While not knowing where exactly, do you have any idea what state the picture may have been taken in? No sorry I do not know. |
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Post by Inspeqtor on Mar 8, 2022 15:58:58 GMT
I have been following this discussion. Thank you for following this thread Helen!! |
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Post by BuckSkin on Mar 8, 2022 16:26:39 GMT
I have been noticing that the colorizing you guys have been doing really brings out the detail in these pictures; maybe, if the locomotive picture were colorized, we might see some clue that would help solve this mystery.
The more I think about it, the more I believe it was a derailment; as, no one would ever think of parking a locomotive directly on the ground.
If we knew close to the when and where, maybe newspaper articles could be found describing a derailment, maybe even with this same photo.
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Post by hmca on Mar 8, 2022 19:20:11 GMT
I have been noticing that the colorizing you guys have been doing really brings out the detail in these pictures; maybe, if the locomotive picture were colorized, we might see some clue that would help solve this mystery. The more I think about it, the more I believe it was a derailment; as, no one would ever think of parking a locomotive directly on the ground. If we knew close to the when and where, maybe newspaper articles could be found describing a derailment, maybe even with this same photo. I have colorized this using the neural filter in PS. I have also enlarged it using Gigapixel. I was wondering if their clothes and/or the bikes miight give you some kind of an idea as to the year it was taken. Maybe that would help you in your research.  |
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Post by Inspeqtor on Mar 9, 2022 7:29:03 GMT
I just tried to colorize the Locomotive with PSE but with my limited knowledge of Elements I can not come close to what you got Helen using Full Photoshop. Yours does look very good Helen!!  I also tried taking this train picture to see if Google could find THIS locomotive, the same as it found "Castillo de San Marcos" as I showed earlier in this thread, but it found only trains in general. |
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Post by BuckSkin on Mar 9, 2022 8:51:59 GMT
I borrowed Helen's picture and marked the Builder's Plate. If anyone has the technology to make out the lettering and what it says, it will tell the manufacturer (ALCO, Lima, Baldwin are the large manufacturers), date of manufacture, and Serial Number; armed with that, it is a small matter to find it's history and where it ended up.  |
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Post by BuckSkin on Mar 9, 2022 9:12:23 GMT
Still searching.... Where it says Contents of this Page, click on Fielding and Platt Engine; ( THIS may go directly to it - maybe) Fielding and Platt did build steam engines and locomotives and displayed them in America and other countries; they built a steam-ship that is still at work on the Thames. I don't know if there is any connection to this locomotive or this Platt. |
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