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Post by Sepiana on Feb 23, 2022 19:59:40 GMT
This is going to sound strange... but just before lunch I saw a lengthy post fill my screen. It looked to be quite useful... but lunch called and I didn't find my prey on the screen. I looked through the thread, in vain. I have to assume it was a post on another thread. Anyone? Paul, I'm looking into it. Thanks for bringing this to our attention! |
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Post by Paul Whiting on Feb 23, 2022 21:30:46 GMT
Sepiana,
I appreciate the summary... as for the differences:
One method does a Copy and Paste the other has the Ctrl pressed during the transfer.
Is the timing critical of these transfers, ie at what point is the Ctrl placed and removed?
Any pros and cons of the different methods?
One thing we haven't mentioned much: is the file, in my case destinationed photo, altered in size, ppi, and so on during the transfer?
Cheers,
Paul |
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Post by Sepiana on Feb 23, 2022 22:23:33 GMT
Sepiana, I appreciate the summary... as for the differences: One method does a Copy and Paste the other has the Ctrl pressed during the transfer. Is the timing critical of these transfers, ie at what point is the Ctrl placed and removed?
Any pros and cons of the different methods? Paul, you are most welcome! I believe you are talking about this summary -- photoshopelementsandmore.com/post/94818Personally, I prefer the Right-Click > Copy/Paste method as it doesn't involve using the Ctrl key. When you use this key, timing is critical. You need to keep this key pressed down until your cursor is over the destination folder and you see a tip note saying . . . + Copy to [folder name]. Then, you can release the mouse. I would suggest you try both techniques and adopt the one you are most comfortable with. One thing we haven't mentioned much: is the file, in my case destinationed photo, altered in size, ppi, and so on during the transfer? No, nothing changes. Your file doesn't get altered during the transfer process. |
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Post by Paul Whiting on Feb 25, 2022 14:20:06 GMT
I diluted my most recent post. It was poorly written and I said some things I thought were clever, but they were not.
Back to the issue at hand. I decided to use Sepiana's method of copying a file, actually in this case a photo, then pasting the copy into the empty destination template. I end up with my photo in two places such that I'm able to add a caption in the destination copy. I choose not to move the file, the word move leaves an empty place behind.
However, somehow I'm stuck.
Best,
Paul
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Post by Paul Whiting on Feb 25, 2022 18:43:01 GMT
Good news! The Sepiana Method worked beautifully.
Was able to copy my print, by starting with right button clicked and held down over the mother print and moused over to the desired template. Mouse then released, copy created and placed right next to the mother copy. Very convenient, and an improvement over my technique a few years ago. The word "copy" is inserted in the URL, also a feature I hadn't expected.
What I need now is the copied photo within the outline of the template. It probably isn't an exact match, but I should be able to grab a corner of the photo and move it around to fit. Also need to place the horizontal blue line at the bottom of the template to allow room for the caption.
Comments appreciated. The transfer was very satisfying. Thanks all!
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Post by Sepiana on Feb 25, 2022 19:59:59 GMT
Good news! The Sepiana Method worked beautifully. Was able to copy my print, by starting with right button clicked and held down over the mother print while mousing over to the desired template. Mouse then released, copy created and placed right next to the mother copy. Very convenient, and an improvement over my technique a few years ago. Paul, good news indeed! You have made progress in your project. Kudos to you! What I need now is the copied photo within the outline of the template. It probably isn't an exact match, but I should be able to grab a corner of the photo and move it around to fit. If you want to reposition your photo within the template, place your cursor on the center of the photo and move the photo around. If you are going to grab a corner handle of the photo to resize it to fit the template, make sure that the "Constrain Proportions" box in the Tool Options area is turned on. If not, your photo will be distorted. Also need to place the horizontal blue line at the bottom of the template to allow room for the caption. There is more than one way to address this issue. The first one that came to mind was . . . 1. Reposition/resize your photo, leaving some of the transparent area of the template visible. 2. Activate the Rectangular Marquee tool. 3. Select the transparent area. 4. Fill it with the color Blue -- Edit > Fill Selection (shortcut = Alt-Backspace). |
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Post by Paul Whiting on Feb 25, 2022 22:54:07 GMT
Thanks for the encouragement, Sepiana, that helps a lot!
Well, I've run into a couple more roadblocks. First of all I think part of my difficulty all along is that I'm using FastStone where I should be sticking to PSE. What's the word, it escapes now, the word is acceptable in more than one program?
Anyway, I place my cursor in the center of the photo and move it around... but the photo does not move. Ctrl T doesn't work either. As for the blue line, I'll go with your first item - I'm familiar with that technique.
All for now!
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Post by Sepiana on Feb 25, 2022 23:51:29 GMT
Well, I've run into a couple more roadblocks. First of all I think part of my difficulty all along is that I'm using FastStone where I should be sticking to PSE. Paul, This could be the root of the problem. I highly recommend you stick with Elements; Elements is more than capable to do what you want. Anyway, I place my cursor in the center of the photo and move it around... but the photo does not move. It should have worked. 1. Do Free Transform (Ctrl-T). 2. Place the cursor in the center of the photo and keep it pressed down. 3. Then, move the photo around. |
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Post by Paul Whiting on Feb 26, 2022 1:45:12 GMT
I'm convinced as to third-party software. I'll keep an eye on tools I'll use and not use.
I also think I jumped the gun this time. as I apply some of your suggestions. It's Friday night, time to take a break - will work on this issue Sat am.
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Post by Paul Whiting on Feb 26, 2022 17:11:04 GMT
Well, some progress.
Turns out that all along I had been mousing the subject (tiny version of subject) within the limits of the template. BUT when I release the button, the subject pops back to the center, I can't make it stay put.
However, I was able to see the thin blue line that shows the limits of the caption.
I'll keep playing with it...
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Post by Sepiana on Feb 26, 2022 19:15:50 GMT
Turns out that all along I had been mousing the subject (tiny version of subject) within the limits of the template. BUT when I release the button, the subject pops back to the center, I can't make it stay put. However, I was able to see the thin blue line that shows the limits of the caption. Paul, I'm baffled. I'm assuming you are no longer using FastStone and are now sticking to Elements. Will you please post a screenshot of the two files (photo + template) in the Editor workspace? Make sure the screenshot will also display the layer stack. Many times the "clue" we need to solve a problem lies in the layer stack. |
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Post by Paul Whiting on Feb 27, 2022 15:20:56 GMT
Sepiana,
I have a radical solution... what started this thread is that I have over a hundred files to deal with. Only 3 or 4 need doctoring, there's error(s) in the caption but I can accept those errors. When I looked at the properties of my templates it was clear they were created with FastStone. That has to be the root of my problems.
What all those adds up to is this: I'd have to re-do my templates with PSE, and then re-do errors in the captions. I hate to say this but it's not worth it. From now on I'll not use FastStone but will use PSE. I can print my FastStone-created files and that will do.
So - I've learned an important lesson, ie stick with Elements from now on. And you shouldn't have to deal with my FastStone files! I don't even know what a layer stack is - never heard of it! Can you tell me that as a parting gift?!
Leaving in a positive note, and TTFN,
Paul
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Post by Sepiana on Feb 27, 2022 17:25:56 GMT
I'm assuming you are no longer using FastStone and are now sticking to Elements. Will you please post a screenshot of the two files (photo + template) in the Editor workspace? Make sure the screenshot will also display the layer stack. Many times the "clue" we need to solve a problem lies in the layer stack. Sepiana, When I looked at the properties of my templates it was clear they were created with FastStone. That has to be the root of my problems. I'd have to re-do my templates with PSE, and then re-do errors in the captions. I hate to say this but it's not worth it. From now on I'll not use FastStone but will use PSE. So - I've learned an important lesson, ie stick with Elements from now on. Paul, I was rather suspicious this was the root of the problem. I quite agree -- stick with Elements. Elements is your best friend and a very capable one. Give it a chance! I don't even know what a layer stack is - never heard of it! Can you tell me that as a parting gift?! The term "layer stack" refers to how the layers are organized /displayed in the Layers panel in Expert Edit in Elements. They are displayed in a stack arrangement. This Adobe document explains it in detail. Scroll down to the "About the Layers panel" section. helpx.adobe.com/photoshop-elements/using/creating-layers.htmlAnd, as you have learnt, PSE&M is the place for all things Elements. Help is only one post away! Just post and we will come to the rescue! |
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Post by BuckSkin on Feb 27, 2022 18:34:05 GMT
You guys have me so confused that I got lost about three posts in on this thread.
I don't think FastStone is your problem as I use it extensively and many times a day jump back and forth between it and Elements; but, they are two different programs and work done in one must be saved and that saved file then opened in the other for work to be done there.
There are numerous operations that each can do that the other cannot or is not as good at; so, I would not abandon either one, but learn how to properly use them to complement each other.
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Post by Paul Whiting on Feb 27, 2022 19:06:22 GMT
Thank you, Buckskin. You made a very wise comment... in other words "The key is when to use what"
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