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Post by BuckSkin on Mar 24, 2022 13:31:47 GMT
Concerning naming files and folders, is file/folder-name WXYZ recognized as a completely different name than wxyz ? or for that matter, WXYz, WXyz, Wxyz, wxyZ, wxYZ, wXYZ, WxYz, wXyZ, and so forth and so on.
I am thinking the answer is YES, they are all completely unique names.
I would just Google-search this, but I would have to wade through fifteen pages of baby diaper ads and new car ads and "Get your WXYZ at BuyStuffHere.com"
Well....., I got to puzzling over this before I submitted this query (a question, especially one addressed to an official or organization); so, I went to a handy folder that had a bunch of .txt text files and performed a few experiments.
I had a file, "Possum and Dumplings".
I created another file and named it "Possum and dumplings"; immediately, a box pops up and much too politely asks me if I want to name the file "Possum and Dumplings(2)" -- it did not provide an option for "H E double-El NO -I want my file named exactly as I typed it"
I tried this from several different angles and the answer was always the same.
I find this to be very limiting behavior; the way I see it, WXYZ is an entirely different label than wxyz.
Is there some switch or option in Windows that I can change so that it will treat WXYZ as a completely different name from wxyz ?
I bet Linux is smarter than that.
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Post by cats4jan on Mar 24, 2022 14:41:53 GMT
I wholeheartedly disagree. I am glad PSE is looking out for me on those days I forget to capitalize or type a weird version of a name. Weirdest thing I had happen - years ago when I was still learning - and I don't know if this is still true..I use St.Lucia.jpg as my file name and it saved it as St.Lucia - as if Lucia was the format because there was a period between the two words. I lost the file. I was using Windows at the time and it was a long time ago, but I would imagine that period still might tell the computer that anything after the period is the format?  ? I got in the habit of never using periods in file namesLearned something just recently - don't know who was talking about file names using dates - -- but it's better to put the year first - then the date (plus, I add a descriptive name, too, for ease when I want to search for a file.) I am creating a book of layouts and using the date to keep them in order. However, I put the year last (like Americans usually do) and the folder confuses my 031822 with 031821 and puts them near each other. Guess I'm going to need to change that to 220318 and 210318 - haven't done it yet, so I'm not certain it will do what I want it to do - which is - keep my years together. |
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Post by Tpgettys on Mar 24, 2022 16:49:08 GMT
In a nutshell, case-sensitivity is dictated by the operating system. Windows is case-insensitive (as you found), whereas UNIX and it’s variants are case-sensitive. Starting with Windows 10 there is a flag that allows case-sensitivity, but it sounds to me like it would be inviting all sorts of trouble if used. Here is an article about it: link |
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Post by BuckSkin on Mar 24, 2022 17:49:40 GMT
-- but it's better to put the year first - then the date
I did a massive reorganization and organized everything by date; it was the most wonderful thing I ever did; I could go right straight to any image I wanted.
In doing so, I did run into a few pitfalls, such as the months by name or initials DO NOT fall in line; however, with a whole bunch of numbers looking me in the face, I wanted my months spelled out with letters so I could see them at a glance (I am talking folder names - not image names); so, I came up with this --- A_Jan, B_Feb, C_Mar, etc.and it has worked wonderfully.
Then, I ran into another snag with the file names; if more than one camera were involved, or I wanted to mix in some photos taken by someone else, things just didn't fall in line like I wanted.
So, I started naming files with the date-taken as the very first part of the name, followed by my camera identifier, and then followed by a consecutive number
- like this - 2022-03-24_123144_7DMkII_0049 - the 123144 is the hour/minute/second, so Year-Month-Day_HourMinuteSecond_CameraID_Number.
Except for rapid-fire shots where there may be a dozen with the same hour/minute/second, I could forgo the consecutive number; however, I like a number as I can see and remember number 69 a lot better than I can the six digit time.
Named thus, so long as the camera clocks are synchronized, I can mix photos from a dozen cameras and they will all line up in the order they were taken.
Another huge advantage to me is I can look at the image name and tell, not only the date, but the exact second of the day. |
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Post by BuckSkin on Mar 24, 2022 18:01:54 GMT
Guess I'm going to need to change that to 220318 and 210318
I have been using the FREE version for several years.
It is highly configurable and you can set it up to pick out and remove any amount of characters from anywhere in a filename and replace them or add other characters anywhere in the name.
As you configure it, you can see what the results will be in real time.
Once you get it configured to suit and click Start Batch, it will do it's work in the blink of an eye.
Just a few minutes ago, I set it up to reconfigure the names on over 1200 files and it was finished before I could remove my finger from the clicker.
It also has the ability to give identical names to file pairs, such as a RAW and it's jpeg mate. |
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Post by Tpgettys on Mar 24, 2022 19:19:37 GMT
I got in the habit of never using periods in file names Good! As you discovered, a period is used to separate the name of a file from the file’s type (jpg, psd, txt, etc). You can use any combination of letters and digits in a filename, as well as some other characters. There are some characters that have special meaning and so are reserved, however. Besides the period, other reserved characters are the question mark (?), asterisk (*), forward and backward slash (/ and \), and others. If you wish to use special characters in a filename it is recommended that you only use the hyphen and underscore. If you wish to put a date in a filename use the ISO 8601 format: YYYYMMDD. |
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Post by BuckSkin on Mar 24, 2022 21:55:00 GMT
Concerning the period in a filename separating the name from the format, if you ever get in a situation such as described by cats4jan, you can revert the file back to whatever it should be simply by renaming it and removing the period; the file is still there once the offending period is removed.
Also, many times, I have changed so-called proprietary files into normal readable/usable files simply by changing the extension to something normal; in many cases, a proprietary file is nothing more than a common file that has had it's extension changed to something weird.
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Post by xairbusdriver on Mar 28, 2022 19:41:02 GMT
As a Mac user, all I can say is "WOW"! We've had WYSIWYG since 1984!  Oh well... |
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Oh well...