bnk1953
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Post by bnk1953 on May 8, 2016 17:47:58 GMT
As I get closer to completing the 59 National Parks of the U.S. (have 1 left to go) - I'm pondering putting together a photo book of the 59 parks for myself and close family members. Any suggestions, hints, guidance - on easiest, best, cheapest outfit to use? (I know - I make it hard). I'm looking for flexibility in where to put photos along with text for each page. Looking at probably at least 60 or so pages at minimum. I'm on a Mac and use Lightroom 6, On1 10, and Photoshop Elements 14. My photos are cataloged via Lightroom at the present time - all on 1 backed up large hard drive. Thanks for any comments or insights. ~bruce.
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Post by Sepiana on May 8, 2016 18:34:15 GMT
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Post by srmoment on May 8, 2016 19:14:18 GMT
I recently printed out some of my images I really liked, so I have a few tips: -for cheaper shipping, I used a company from my home country (Canada) -I used their 14X11 large landscape debossed layflat book and I waited for coupons to come out giving me 70% off. -I found that the image size I generally use for my raw images (15.36X11.2) fit into the pages quite nicely without fiddling. -I got rid of all the unnecessary boxes in the company's template and made it one template box for each page with the background color black. -.....and more importantly, the colors I see on my screen, printed out the same in the photobook. I recommend that you do a test (cheaper) booklet with the company you choose first, before printing your images in the final, more expensive photobook. -and, I got rid of all my signatures, as I thought they detracted from the final product.
Good luck and ask away, if you have questions.
Pat
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Post by blackmutt on May 9, 2016 0:52:15 GMT
I have produced 3 books with Blurb. I have not used Lightroom to do it, but supposedly Lightroom can create the books. I have used the Bookify & Booksmart products in Blurb. At first I hated Blurb but once I got the hang of it I found Booksmart pretty good. Several page layout options and you can mix the page layouts. You can also have writing on your pages. The covers of the books are really nice. They are black and the photo you choose will really pop. I found the printed book and my computer screen to very close. You don't have to do it all in one sitting. It's a lot of work no doubt about it but it's nice to have. All three of mine are 12x12 roughly 80 pages and they ran about 80 a piece before discount coupons. There are always coupons! Take about 2 weeks to arrive after ordering.
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Post by cats4jan on May 9, 2016 10:16:33 GMT
First decide what size you want your finished book to be. The smaller the size, the cheaper the book. Realize that although you think 12x12 sounds good, that size is overkill especially if you are concentrating on one photo pages. Realize, a 12x12 book is kind of cumbersome to handle comfortably.
I scrapbook in 12x12, but print in 8x8. Even though I create multi-photo pages with Scrapbooking embellishments decorating the pages, the photos are large enough when printed at 8x8 to see all the detail. There is also an 8x10 option. For simple little books to carry around to share, 5x7 is a good choice. I did this with my FIL's 90th birthday book, so he could easily transport it and pass it around the senior center.
Decide whether you want a book that lies flat. I really like books that lie flat, but this is usually a more expensive option.
Decide on the cover. You can get hard covers, or soft covers. Again, hard covers are the nicest, but they are more expensive.
Because you will be ordering multiple books, printing can get expensive. As already been mentioned, look for coupons. Sign up at various sites, and play with their software to see which fits your needs. Doing this will probably generate coupon offers when they see you experimenting. They use coupons and sale offers to encourage you to finish a project and order.
Realize the bargain prices are for books with fewer pages and each additional page will cost you money, so even though you find a good price, the price per additional page may swing your choice to a different company.
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Post by cats4jan on May 9, 2016 10:40:34 GMT
Creating...
First check the maximum size you can upload, because your first step may be resizing photos for upload. However, I believe this is no longer the issue it used to be, but, then again, with even your most basic cameras taking huge megapixel photos, it can be an issue.
Realize that 300 pixels per inch provides great prints, so higher res is overkill. The larger the size, the harder the upload. Knowing what the company can handle is your first step.
I believe they only handle jpgs, so check that out, too.
Most companies have ready made books where you just upload your photos and the drop them onto the pages. After the basic book is created, you can move the photos around, but get your photos in order prior to starting a book. Dropping random photos onto the templates will be very difficult, so putting your photos in order is essential.
You can create your own collages, save the page as a jpg and upload it as a single photo. You are not limited to using only their template pages, but the templates are so nice, you may be happy with them doing all the work.
If you create your own collages, keep in mind the edges of your page. Keep text away from the edge and all important photos need to be away from the edges or they may get chopped off during printing. The companies provide templates to help you avoid this.
You may be swayed more by their templates than by their prices, plus some software is easier to use than others. You can make books without ordering, so experiment by making sample books with few pages to see which company fits your needs.
I cannot recommend specific companies. I haven't printed a book in years, but as already been suggested, get a small book printed and see if you like their work first. Printing quality varies so - plus your own tolerance for less than perfect quality will enter into the picture (no pun intended). Realize, most of these companies are about mass production. I found the quality is on par with calendars you buy in the store - probably because these companies started out as custom calendar printers and branched out into books to meet digital Scrappers needs.
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Post by cats4jan on May 9, 2016 10:49:21 GMT
Another option.
You can create books and share them without printing them. Most companies allow you to create for free and share the link for free. Their hope is that you will so like your book that you will be compelled to order a print.
Realize that some of the relatives may not actually want a printed version and you may be wasting money getting them a printed version. Sometimes an electronic version is all you need for these people. The link stays active forever, so they can always come back for another viewing.
Again, these companies allow you to share your creation because they hope whomever you share it with will be compelled to order their own printed copies.
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2016 12:29:13 GMT
I used Blurb a couple of times in the past, but haven't printed a book for a number of years. However, my experience with Blurb was fantastic, having tried a different provider (whose name now escapes me) first for a cheaper book I was sorely disappointed with the colours, as they did not come out true to the original. Blurb on the other hand was exactly the colours I had and the quality of the end product was far superior to the other one.
Additionally, back then I found the Blurb software really easy to get on with, their many templates really helped me to get started and each template can be customized to your taste and requirements. They also offered discounts when ordering more than 1 book for print (at least they did back then).
Overall, I agree with Janice, take a look at a few providers, trial their software out, read other online reviews and see which one fits your requirements best.
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Post by cats4jan on May 9, 2016 17:33:05 GMT
www.snapfish.comI cannot vouch for the look of this photobook, but the company has been in business a long time. Here is a sample price. I'm assuming the base price is on sale, but the cost of each additional page is full price, but I don't really know. They have 12x12 and 8x8, too.
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Post by cats4jan on May 9, 2016 17:50:27 GMT
www.flickr.comI had all these photos up on the site already, so I went to the 'create book' part of the site and these are sample pages. Like I mentioned before, you have to worry about what is on the edges of your photo - as you can see, I'm losing the right edge of my itinerary box where the pages meet in the center. And I lost the tip of the cruise ship in the large sized photo of the ship. The size of the book and price is at the bottom. 93 pages cost $71.45 - Hardcover 11x8.5 book. That is probably full price - I didn't look around for a sale. There are bars at the bottom of each page to increase and decrease the size of the photo. The photos came in at the smallest size and the only thing I could do would be to make them larger and shift them around. If I'm losing a part of the page, I don't think I can make them smaller to capture an edge that is lost. Most of these photos went onto this site as is. I didn't resize prior to upload. You can tell what happens with a resized/cropped photo - it ends up with a white box around it like in the second example. The pages with text were created in PSE. I don't know how easy it is to, or even if you can, add text on the Flickr website itself. Again - I never ordered a book from them, so I can't vouch for the quality of the book. I can only vouch for the quality of the site.
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Post by Sepiana on May 9, 2016 17:59:05 GMT
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Post by cats4jan on May 9, 2016 18:31:34 GMT
www.shutterfly.comWhat I like about Shutterfly is the design of their ready-made templates. I like the multi-photo pages. I have seen Shutterfly books and calendars and they have the look of store-bought calendars -- not exactly the photo quality you are used to when getting prints, but they are pretty nice.
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Post by srmoment on May 9, 2016 21:09:57 GMT
Cats4Jan what an enlightening series of posts - I've learned a lot. I thought I would take a page out of your book and post a couple pages from my layflat (14X11-one image to a page) books as examples. I was really happy with the quality of the pages, and I did not add any extra text as I normally do with my scrapbook albumns.
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Post by cats4jan on May 9, 2016 23:54:50 GMT
I thought I would take a page out of your book and post a couple pages from my layflat Those look like really great quality. I've talked about getting a book printed of some of my heritage layouts, but I've never gotten around to it. I guess it's because I don't know where to stop when choosing the layouts.
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Post by cats4jan on May 10, 2016 0:06:11 GMT
I used Adorama to create a couple of photo books. Was over at the Adorama site and it looks like you have a lot of control over how you do your book. As a scrapbooker, I need that extra amount of input when making a book because even though I would make some extra layouts to go along with the plain photos, there's always a chance I would want to add some text or move things around on the plain photo pages.
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