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Post by Tpgettys on Jul 17, 2016 21:59:02 GMT
As I said, every time you enter a delay, no matter for which frame, you are setting the delay for the entire sequence. Thanks Craig; that is what I suspected would be seen.
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Post by Sepiana on Jul 17, 2016 22:04:59 GMT
Just curious here: if you enter several frame delays and before clicking the play button, if you go back to previous frames does it appear that each frame delay is remembered so far? No. As I said, every time you enter a delay, no matter for which frame, you are setting the delay for the entire sequence. Check it yourself. Set a delay on one frame, then change it on another one. The first one will change to the last one set.
No. Those arrows (buttons) are not designed to adjust the time in between frames; they are designed to allow you to preview your animation by going through it one frame at a time. See my earlier post for further clarification.
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Post by ritage on Jul 17, 2016 22:16:01 GMT
Just curious here: if you enter several frame delays and before clicking the play button, if you go back to previous frames does it appear that each frame delay is remembered so far? No. As I said, every time you enter a delay, no matter for which frame, you are setting the delay for the entire sequence. Check it yourself. Set a delay on one frame, then change it on another one. The first one will change to the last one set. Major Major, your observation is perfectly correct. But that is just what is not supposed to happen. See this post in the Adobe Forum, it is old but still applies. The answer is given by Barbara Brundage. Here is what Barbara said in Photoshop Elements 5 The Missing Manual in her Chapter "Creating Animated Gifs" : "You can adjust the time between slides if you want." Elements 5 is the version I used for a long time. Rita
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Post by Major Major on Jul 17, 2016 22:27:02 GMT
Ritage -
That statement is correct on its face. However, It doesn't say you can independently adjust the time between individual slides. I believe there she is referring to setting the delay for the entire sequence.
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Post by ritage on Jul 17, 2016 22:27:07 GMT
No. As I said, every time you enter a delay, no matter for which frame, you are setting the delay for the entire sequence. Check it yourself. Set a delay on one frame, then change it on another one. The first one will change to the last one set.
No. Those arrows (buttons) are not designed to adjust the time in between frames; they are designed to allow you to preview your animation by going through it one frame at a time. See my earlier post for further clarification.
Sepiana, I missed this post of yours and one other above. I was looking for the references. But all I can say is in my answer to Major Major above. Perhaps all this has changed since Elements 5, then, of course, I would be wrong about the whole thing. Rita
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Post by Major Major on Jul 17, 2016 22:28:55 GMT
No. Those arrows (buttons) are not designed to adjust the time in between frames; they are designed to allow you to preview your animation by going through it one frame at a time. See my earlier post for further clarification. That is true, but it can appear as though you can adjust the time between frames, because the delay setting is visible on each frame. I believe that is what Ritage is experiencing.
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Post by Sepiana on Jul 17, 2016 22:40:26 GMT
See this post in the Adobe Forum, it is old but still applies. The answer is given by Barbara Brundage. Here is what Barbara said in Photoshop Elements 5 The Missing Manual in her Chapter "Creating Animated Gifs" : "You can adjust the time between slides if you want." Elements 5 is the version I used for a long time.
Rita,
It looks like Adobe has changed the way it works in more recent versions of Elements. I checked all The Missing Manuals I own going back to Elements 7. This is what Barbara Brundage says in the edition for Elements 7 (Chapter 17: Email and the Web, Section titled Creating Animated GIFs). The same explanation is present in The Missing Manual for Elements 14.
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Post by ritage on Jul 17, 2016 22:41:52 GMT
Ritage - That statement is correct on its face. However, It doesn't say you can independently adjust the time between individual slides. I believe there she is referring to setting the delay for the entire sequence. Major Major, The wording for the workaround shows that what is being discussed here is the length each frame layer is to be visible in the animation. "Stay on screen longer", otherwise known as "Frame Delay". I did read this carefully before I posted the reference. Rita
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Post by Sepiana on Jul 17, 2016 22:47:38 GMT
No. Those arrows (buttons) are not designed to adjust the time in between frames; they are designed to allow you to preview your animation by going through it one frame at a time. See my earlier post for further clarification. That is true, but it can appear as though you can adjust the time between frames, because the delay setting is visible on each frame. I believe that is what Ritage is experiencing.
Yes. I understand it but I am afraid you can't do it, at least not in the versions of Elements I have. It looks like Adobe made some changes starting with Elements 7. (I don't have Elements 6.) I am not sure but this may have been their response to the BIG bug which developed in Elements 6 on a Mac concerning the time delay settings and their adjustment. Please, see my most recent reply to Rita.
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Post by Major Major on Jul 18, 2016 16:26:47 GMT
Sepiana -
It isn't me that's confused about this.
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Post by Major Major on Jul 18, 2016 16:31:26 GMT
Ritage - That statement is correct on its face. However, It doesn't say you can independently adjust the time between individual slides. I believe there she is referring to setting the delay for the entire sequence. Major Major, The wording for the workaround shows that what is being discussed here is the length each frame layer is to be visible in the animation. "Stay on screen longer", otherwise known as "Frame Delay". I did read this carefully before I posted the reference. Rita Rita - What Barbara is saying is that there is no way to individually vary the delay rate of individual frames, but that you can get the effect of some frames being on the screen longer (i.e. having a slower delay rate) by duplicating the frames.
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Post by Sepiana on Jul 18, 2016 17:03:40 GMT
Sepiana - It isn't me that's confused about this. Craig, I am the one who is getting confused now.
I have been doing a lot of checking on this. All the evidence seems to indicate those arrows (buttons) are indeed for previewing your animation and not for adjusting the time delay between frames. I found this document which goes through the process of creating animated GIFs in a very detailed way. See Steps 7 through 9.
smallbusiness.chron.com/make-animated-gif-photoshop-elements-45852.html
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Post by Major Major on Jul 18, 2016 17:11:53 GMT
Sepiana -
I never said anything different. Ritage did.
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Post by Sepiana on Jul 18, 2016 17:20:13 GMT
Sepiana - I never said anything different. Ritage did. Craig,
Oh! I know. Anyway, the only thing I am not confused about by now is . . . this is no bug.
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Post by ritage on Jul 18, 2016 22:12:09 GMT
Thank you, everyone, for spending so much time on my post.
I’m very sorry I ever brought it up, and my only excuse is that I merely meant it as a casual heads-up to potential users who, like me, might expect this option to be available, based on experiences with other programs. I wasted a lot of time establishing that it wasn’t me doing something wrong.
You have convinced me that it is not a Bug, but an intentional curtailment of function. I was trying too hard to give Adobe the benefit of the doubt, just because I’m really an old Adobe fan.
In future I’ll be more circumspect with my casual observations, or at least label them with more discreet names.
Rita
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