seattleddc
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Post by seattleddc on Apr 10, 2019 2:27:20 GMT
Hey folks. I remember a tutorial from the old website called "Border Breakout". Can anyone add to this, or point me in the right direction? I wrote some instructions down, but in my attempt to follow them they didn't make sense to me. Thanks!
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Post by Sepiana on Apr 10, 2019 2:51:04 GMT
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seattleddc
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Post by seattleddc on Apr 10, 2019 6:25:07 GMT
1. Open photo to use. 2. Select person to “breakout”. Whole person doesn’t need to be selected. 3. Ctrl J after you’ve made selection. 4. Border Breakout 5. Create a New Layer. 6. Use Rectangular Marquee Tool to select what you want to be the “original” photo. Don’t position it too close to the edges of photo. 7. Edit/Fill/Fill with black. This should be done on layer 2 in the rectangular selected portion. 8. Ctrl T to manipulate rectangular marquee. Tilt it. Hit enter to finish. 9. Delete Layer 2. 10. Go to Background Layer and duplicate it (Ctrl J). 11. Create a new layer. Stacking order should be Layer 1, Layer 2, Layer 3, Background Layer. 12. Fill Layer 3 with white. 13. Go to Layer 2 and Ctrl + click once to make a selection around the rectangular portion. CURSOR MUST BE INSIDE RECTANGULAR PORTION ON LAYER. 14. Edit/Stroke Selection/White/Inside 15. With that still selected, Create New Layer. 16. Fill new layer with black. 17. Deselect. 18. Filter/Blur/Gaussian Blur (about 30). 19. Drag Layer 4 below Layer 2. 20. Ctrl T and change angle of shadow. 21. Flatten image. 22. Ctrl J 23. Edit/Stroke/Inside to give it a border.  |
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seattleddc
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Post by seattleddc on Apr 10, 2019 6:27:26 GMT
Finally figured out how to cut this out of my Word document. This is what I was referring to. Very similar. There must have been a tutorial for this, as I'm not crafty enough to have changed the one from the magazine into this. Maybe the steps I have will help.
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Post by Sepiana on Apr 10, 2019 6:55:59 GMT
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seattleddc
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Post by seattleddc on Apr 10, 2019 7:11:27 GMT
Thank you Sepiana. I'm going to give some of these a try. Very much appreciated.
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Post by Sepiana on Apr 11, 2019 1:58:37 GMT
seattleddc, you are most welcome! Let us know how it goes.
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seattleddc
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Post by seattleddc on Apr 12, 2019 9:22:06 GMT
Okay, attempt unsuccessful. I tried the tutorial with the children playing and it was a no go. Plus it kept giving me a weird popup on my computer. So I went back to my original steps, and it seemed like it was going well until I got to step 12 12. Go to Layer 2 and Ctrl + click once to make a selection around the rectangular portion. CURSOR MUST BE INSIDE RECTANGULAR PORTION ON LAYER. Ctrl + click was not making a selection around the rectangular portion (I think it was making a selection around the whole layer). These instructions I wrote were from a much earlier version of PSE, and I'm using PSE 15 now. So I'm wondering if there's a different sequence to select the rectangular portion I've selected, rather than the whole layer. Thoughts?  Maybe this screenshot will help. Thoughts? |
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Post by cats4jan on Apr 12, 2019 11:51:33 GMT
Note: I have edited my response - drastically - I got too wordy
This is my interpretation of the step you are questioning:
He's telling you to go to the layers panel and select that layer --- "cursor must be inside rectangular portion on layer" - means make sure you are on the thumbnail (the little picture) and not the wording of the layer in the layers panel -- and then control click. Marching ants will appear around the outside edges of the layer.
Note: When you go to the layer in the layers panel to make a selection, the selection will always encompass the entire layer. When you control click on the thumbnail of the layer, marching ants will appear around the outer edge of your entire layer.
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To make a selection of only a portion of the layer, you need to use a selection tool and work on the layer itself on your project - not in the layers panel.
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BTW - Layers in the layers panel are numbered from bottom to top - layer 0 being the original or background layer - Otherwise, as you add more layers, you need to change the numbered designation of the layers each time you add a layer. To avoid confusion, numbering should designate how the layers are stacked upon each other. The highest number being the top layer.
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Post by Sepiana on Apr 12, 2019 12:59:48 GMT
That is a difficult tutorial to follow. It's ambiguous. Terminology is incorrect.
I agree. The instructions are confusing; it looks like some steps were omitted.
I believe the purpose of the black-filled layer is to use it to create a shadow (by applying the Gaussian Blur filter).
- Duplicate the selection layer. - Drag the duplicate layer under the selection layer. (Rename it "shadow" if you want to). - Ctrl-click on the shadow layer thumbnail (not on the layer's name). This will load it as a selection; you will see marching ants around it. - Fill the shadow selection with black. - Select>Deselect (Ctrl-D). - Apply a Gaussian blur (Filter>Blur>Gaussian Blur).
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seattleddc
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Post by seattleddc on Apr 14, 2019 9:00:33 GMT
I apologize for the confusion here. The instructions on the project above were the ones I wrote down for my understanding. Needless to say, years later they don't even make sense to me, so not sure why I thought they'd make sense to anyone else. I think I'm going to give up on this "Border Breakout" project. But I appreciate everyone weighing in and assisting me. This is a great community and I really appreciate all the assistance.
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Post by cats4jan on Apr 14, 2019 13:04:06 GMT
Often when one jots down notes to do a project, we have the backup of the original, so we skip steps we already know. Not surprised you had problem with your own notes when you went back to it. You didn't have the original sources to fall back on. Sorry you are giving up on this, but although I've been using PSE since 2006, I find doing this type of project difficult, so really understand your moving on. It's not an easy project for a beginner. If you would like to do something similar - You can get a nice looking project with a 'little kick' :
Two layers - one frame - one photo
This is a very simple example and probably a bad one, but you get the drift
-- all I did was erase the frame where I wanted the car to look like it was escaping the frame.
You could erase everything outside the frame - other than the car - to make it look better
photo: pixabay (car is an Opal - in case anyone is wondering) |
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Post by Sepiana on Apr 14, 2019 16:33:44 GMT
I apologize for the confusion here. The instructions on the project above were the ones I wrote down for my understanding. Needless to say, years later they don't even make sense to me, so not sure why I thought they'd make sense to anyone else. I think I'm going to give up on this "Border Breakout" project. But I appreciate everyone weighing in and assisting me. This is a great community and I really appreciate all the assistance. seattleddc, do not give up! You created an OOB effect before and you can do it again. I believe in you!
My suggestion would be to not follow those notes; they seem to be missing some crucial steps. Why not try the tutorials I mentioned before? To recap, . . .
Out Of Bounds (OOB) Tutorial For Photoshop Elements Users (Written by PSEFrank, longstanding EV member, using PSE 4.) Breaking Through Borders (Written by Paula Vessels, contributor to the PET magazine.) OOB Break Out of that Frame! a Tutorial for Photoshop or Elements
NOTE: I have used both PSEFrank's and Liz's tutorials many times (going back to the days of PSE 4); I am quite familiar with them. PSEFrank's tutorial is very easy to follow. Liz's tutorial is quite long (detailed). The key to success is to make sure to rename the layers as you go.
Creative Effects Challenge No. 95 – Simple Out-of-Bounds (Written for Photoshop but it can be done in Elements)
Out of Bounds Effect in PS Elements (Written for PSE 6).
NOTE: I came across the tutorial by Fletch last night; it looks very straightforward, easy to follow.
Last but not least, . . .
and I'm using PSE 15 now.
You could try the OOB effect (Guided Edit>Fun Edits) in PSE 15 -- Out of Bounds Guided Edit.
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Post by PeteB on Apr 14, 2019 16:55:04 GMT
I coming to this discussion late, but looking at your baseball breakout, you are almost there… to finish your OOB do the following.
On layer 1, use the quick selection tool to select the bat and a portion of the batter’s hands. Command J or Control J will put that on a new layer. This new layer should remain at the top above the stroked layer— coming next.
Make Layer 2 active. In the layers panel, Command (Control) click on the thumbnail. This will select the rectangle. Create a new layer above layer 2 and stroke the selection.. The width of the stroke will depend on your image..experiment.
You should now have a photo with a white border and a baseball bat breaking that border. But you have a white border and a white background, so you need to change the background.
Now to change the background. Make Layer 3 active and create a new layer above it. Any color, gradient, pattern, etc. placed on the new layer will now become your new background. Experiment, fill that new layer with black or go to the gradient tool and fill the layer with a black to white gradient. Have fun
HTH
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Post by Sepiana on Apr 14, 2019 17:06:52 GMT
PeteB , this is so uncanny! I was getting ready to send you a PM asking for help with this thread. Thanks so much for coming to the rescue!
seattleddc , just follow Pete's suggestions. He is our in-house OOB expert. You will be in good hands!
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