Moto
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Post by Moto on Dec 30, 2016 16:55:37 GMT
Update: This tip is wrong on modern versions of elements. It's not necessary.
This tip works on older versions. I don't know exactly which ones.
Sorry for the confusion.
Another option besides using a Text Box or using the Move Tool Align (for multiple text layers), is to press Shift + Return instead of just a Return. By using Shift + Return all your text will be aligned and in one layer.Note: For your image the Text Box is the best one to use.
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Post by Sepiana on Dec 30, 2016 17:05:21 GMT
Another option besides using a Text Box or using the Move Tool Align, is to press Shift + Return instead of just a Return. By using Shift + Return all your text will be aligned and in one layer.Moto, great tip! I didn't know that. You taught me something new. Thanks! |
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Post by Moto on Dec 30, 2016 17:21:40 GMT
cats4jan awesome Text tutorial. I learned something new and something I forgot about.
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Post by Major Major on Dec 30, 2016 18:06:55 GMT
Another option besides using a Text Box or using the Move Tool Align, is to press Shift + Return instead of just a Return. By using Shift + Return all your text will be aligned and in one layer.Moto, great tip! I didn't know that. You taught me something new. Thanks! Moto - Could you explain more fully? Where/when do you press Shift+Enter? |
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Post by cats4jan on Dec 30, 2016 19:19:22 GMT
Moto -what I like about text boxes is their versatility. If you have the text selected and you change the size/shape of the box, the text aligns differently. If you do not have the text highlighted, manipulating the text box merely changes the shape/size of the text itself. Plus, there's always the ability to easily move the text from area to area without what I call 'jumping layers' What I mean is - when you do not use a text box, moving text can be iffy - unless you grab the text just right, you end up grabbing the layer beneath it. That doesn't happen with text boxes.
I'm also interested in the shift/return hint you had. I can't get any effect from doing it - don't quite know how to approach it, either. In a couple of tries, all I succeeded in doing was erase my text.
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Post by Sepiana on Dec 30, 2016 20:20:35 GMT
Moto - Could you explain more fully? Where/when do you press Shift+Enter? I'm also interested in the shift/return hint you had. I can't get any effect from doing it - don't quite know how to approach it, either. In a couple of tries, all I succeeded in doing was erase my text.
I am not Moto but . . .
I believe his technique addresses the problem Charles described -- text not aligned on the left edge and multiple layers.
I am trying to add a lot of text to a photo of a picture I scanned from a calendar. There are several lines, and I have never learned how to do this in Elements properly to make the lines appear even, and each new line starting the same distance from the left edge. How is this done? I did this starting a new text with each new line... it seems there has to be a better way!
When you type your text, Elements will automatically put the text you created on its own layer. This means that once you commit your text by clicking on the green button and, then, type another text string, Elements will create another layer. Now you have multiple layers -- one for each text string. Also, you have to eyeball aligning your text on the left edge. When you click to begin typing the second text, if you don't click exactly in the same place underneath where your first text started, the two text strings won't be aligned on the left edge. On the other hand, if you press Shift+Return, Elements will create only ONE layer for all the text you created and will align it on the left edge.
His technique will work just fine for Charles' project. It is very easy, effective, and does not require the use of a Text Box.
UPDATE:
Thanks to Craig's feedback, it is not necessary to use the Shift+Return key combo to have your text aligned on the left edge and all in one layer. I made the necessary correction above. Just using the Return key by itself will do the job. My apologies!!! I should have tested all the three variables -- Shift+Return, Return, and the Commit button.
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Post by Major Major on Dec 30, 2016 20:36:18 GMT
When you type your text, Elements will automatically put the text you created on its own layer. This means that once you press Return and, then, type another text string, Elements will create another layer. Now you have multiple layers -- one for each text string. Also, you have to eyeball aligning your text on the left edge. When you click to begin typing the second text, if you don't click exactly in the same place underneath where your first text started, the two text strings won't be aligned on the left edge. On the other hand, if you press Shift + Return, Elements will create only ONE layer for all the text you created and will align it on the left edge. Well, that's not what happens for me in PSE15. When I type a line of text and hit return, the cursor merely drops to the line below and lets me keep typing, all in the same text box. Everything is left justified (presumably that would change if the text align box were altered for center- or right-alignment.  |
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Post by Sepiana on Dec 30, 2016 20:49:40 GMT
Well, that's not what happens for me in PSE15. When I type a line of text and hit return, the cursor merely drops to the line below and lets me keep typing, all in the same text box. Everything is left justified (presumably that would change if the text align box were altered for center- or right-alignment.
Craig,
I used Elements 15 as well. That's where my screen shot came from. I also tested Moto's technique in Elements 11 through 14. It worked the same way.
You mentioned a Text Box. You don't need to create one to use his technique. If you use a Text Box, Elements will automatically use its boundaries to determine where to break the text for alignment.
Could this be the root of the problem?
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Post by Major Major on Dec 30, 2016 21:02:13 GMT
I didn't use a text box. I should have said all in the same layer.
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Post by Sepiana on Dec 30, 2016 21:20:53 GMT
I didn't use a text box. I should have said all in the same layer.
I figured out what happened. When I did my testing in Elements 11 through Elements 15, I used only two variables -- the Commit button vs Shift+Return (Moto's suggestion). After I read your post, I redid all my testing using a third variable -- the Return key. I got the same results as you.
When I type a line of text and hit return, the cursor merely drops to the line below and lets me keep typing, all in the same text box. Everything is left justified . . . This means that it makes no difference if you use Return or Shift+Return. You will get the same result -- one single text layer and text aligned on the left.
Glad you brought it up. Thanks! I will edit my earlier post to clarify this issue. I will specify the use of the Commit button.
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Post by Major Major on Dec 30, 2016 21:27:49 GMT
Ah, well, that makes sense that once you click commit you create a new layer. However, I believe you would then have to click on the Text icon again to create a new text layer. So I still don't understand Moto's post.
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Post by Inspeqtor on Dec 30, 2016 21:54:37 GMT
I am very surprised and happy with all the help I have received on this simple question about working with text. I am sure most of you can tell, I scanned the photo from my calendar, then I resized the canvas to have an area to type in my text. If you look at my original photo, what I did was type in a line until it filled the width of the frame... I would end that text line, then try and start a new text line... but as you can see the left side never was in line, plus the spacing between the lines was very uneven. What I learned here today and tried at home, with the text tool I would first drag a box to fill the empty canvas, then I learned if I start typing, once I get to the end of the width, Elements was smart enough to start a new line and I could just type in the full text all in one layer! New to me, but old news to (most) everyone else here. I have since tried moto's tip of shift-return (not in a text box) and the does work very well for me! Thank you moto! When I try just clicking return using the text tool not in a box, then that layer closes and I have to 'try' to line up the text tool myself which does not work at all for me. Here is what I ended up with using the text box.  |
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Post by Sepiana on Dec 30, 2016 21:59:08 GMT
I am trying to add a lot of text to a photo of a picture I scanned from a calendar. There are several lines, and I have never learned how to do this in Elements properly to make the lines appear even, and each new line starting the same distance from the left edge. How is this done? I did this starting a new text with each new line... it seems there has to be a better way! Charles,
I am going to make your life easier . . .
If all you want is to align your text on the left edge and have all the multiple text lines in one single layer, just do this. After you type the first line, don't use the Commit button. Just use the Return key. This will give you all of your text in one layer and aligned on the left edge.
Please note that, if this is all you want, there is no need for a Text Box as I suggested earlier. On the other hand, if you also want to align your text on the right edge, then, use a Text Box.
I have since tried moto's tip of shift-return (not in a text box) and the does work very well for me! Thank you moto! When I try just clicking return using the text tool not in a box, then that layer closes and I have to 'try' to line up the text tool myself which does not work at all for me. If you go back to this POST, you will see that there is enough evidence that you don't need to use the Shift-Return key combo. The Return key by itself will do just fine. I would suggest you look into resetting the Type tool. This should NOT be happening. |
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Post by Inspeqtor on Dec 30, 2016 22:15:46 GMT
I am trying to add a lot of text to a photo of a picture I scanned from a calendar. There are several lines, and I have never learned how to do this in Elements properly to make the lines appear even, and each new line starting the same distance from the left edge. How is this done? I did this starting a new text with each new line... it seems there has to be a better way! Charles,
I am going to make your life easier . . .
If all you want is to align your text on the left edge and have all the multiple text lines in one single layer, just do this. After you type the first line, don't use the Commit button. Just use the Return key. This will give you all of your text in one layer and aligned on the left edge.
Please note that, if this is all you want, there is no need for a Text Box as I suggested earlier. On the other hand, if you also want to align your text on the right edge, then, use a Type Box.
I have since tried moto's tip of shift-return (not in a text box) and the does work very well for me! Thank you moto! When I try just clicking return using the text tool not in a box, then that layer closes and I have to 'try' to line up the text tool myself which does not work at all for me. If you go back to this POST, you will see that there is enough evidence that you don't need to use the Shift-Return key combo. The Return key by itself will do just fine. I would suggest you look into resetting the Type tool. This should NOT be happening. Sepiana, When you say "Commit button", are you talking about the green check mark in Elements that you need to click with using the mouse? When I try using the green check mark or the Return key (Enter key on my keyboard) I get the same exact response. The text layer has ended and closed, therefore I need to start a new layer, or go back in and edit the previous layer. |
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Post by Major Major on Dec 30, 2016 22:16:54 GMT
When I try just clicking return using the text tool not in a box, then that layer closes and I have to 'try' to line up the text tool myself which does not work at all for me. If you go back to this POST, you will see that there is enough evidence that you don't need to use the Shift-Return key combo. The Return key by itself will do just fine. I would suggest you look into resetting the Type tool. This should NOT be happening. But that is what will happen if you click the commit key. Perhaps that is what Charles is actually doing. |
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