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Post by Inspeqtor on Dec 30, 2016 22:17:59 GMT
How do I reset the type tool?
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Post by Inspeqtor on Dec 30, 2016 22:19:58 GMT
When I try just clicking return using the text tool not in a box, then that layer closes and I have to 'try' to line up the text tool myself which does not work at all for me. If you go back to this POST, you will see that there is enough evidence that you don't need to use the Shift-Return key combo. The Return key by itself will do just fine. I would suggest you look into resetting the Type tool. This should NOT be happening. But that is what will happen if you click the commit key. Perhaps that is what Charles is actually doing. What IS the commit key? |
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Post by Sepiana on Dec 30, 2016 22:25:58 GMT
Sepiana, When you say "Commit button", are you talking about the green check mark in Elements that you need to click with using the mouse?
Yes, that's the button I am talking about.
This should NOT be happening. That's not the way the Type tool is supposed to work. I would suggest you reset this tool.
If this is just a glitch, you could try this. (For same reason, it fixes small glitches Elements seems to develop, especially in more recent versions.)
1. Launch Elements as administrator. Right-click on its shortcut and select "Run as administrator" from the menu. 2. Activate the Type tool and do some checking. If it is working as it should, close Elements. 3. Launch Elements but this time just do it as a standard user.
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Post by Major Major on Dec 30, 2016 22:25:58 GMT
When you say "Commit button", are you talking about the green check mark in Elements that you need to click with using the mouse? I'm not Sepiana, but yes. When I try using the green check mark or the Return key (Enter key on my keyboard) I get the same exact response. The text layer has ended and closed, therefore I need to start a new layer, or go back in and edit the previous layer. I just tried this in both PSE 11 and PSE 13 (your versions) and the results are the same - Hitting return does not close the text layer, it drops the cursor to the next line. I agree that you should try resetting the text tool. |
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Post by Sepiana on Dec 30, 2016 22:29:37 GMT
How do I reset the type tool?
Go to the right end of the Type tool's Option bar and click on Reset Tool.
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Post by Moto on Dec 30, 2016 22:36:05 GMT
I just tested Shift+Return on my Elements 15. You're all right. It is no longer needed on modern versions.
The Shift+Return was necessary in my older version of Elements. Old versions that I've had were Elements LE, Elements 3 and Elements 9. I now only have versions 12 & 15 installed.
Inspeqtor in which version of elements did you use Shift+Return that worked for you?
Note: Sorry for the confusion I caused people. I should have retested the tip before posting.
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Post by Major Major on Dec 30, 2016 22:44:06 GMT
Moto -
Again, would you please explain where and when you would use this? I'm not understanding at all.
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Post by Moto on Dec 30, 2016 22:53:06 GMT
Moto - Again, would you please explain where and when you would use this? I'm not understanding at all. I will explain when I get a chance. I'm busy at the moment. |
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Post by Inspeqtor on Dec 31, 2016 0:42:02 GMT
I just tested Shift+Return on my Elements 15. You're all right. It is no longer needed on modern versions. The Shift+Return was necessary in my older version of Elements. Old versions that I've had were Elements LE, Elements 3 and Elements 9. I now only have versions 12 & 15 installed. Inspeqtor in which version of elements did you use Shift+Return that worked for you? Note: Sorry for the confusion I caused people. I should have retested the tip before posting. Moto, I am using Elements 15 now. |
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Post by Inspeqtor on Dec 31, 2016 0:52:45 GMT
I just loaded PSE15 under Administration, did the Reset for the type tool... I still see no difference..
It seems imgbb is slow today for me anyway.....
I was going to show results....
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Post by Sepiana on Dec 31, 2016 2:27:14 GMT
I just loaded PSE15 under Administration, did the Reset for the type tool... I still see no difference..
It looks like the next troubleshooting step would be to delete the Preferences file and allow Elements to generate a replacement file. According to the Help file.
Go to Edit>Preferences>General (Adobe Photoshop Elements Editor>Preferences> . . . on a Mac). Click on the "Reset Preferences on next launch" button. Ignore the "This cannot be undone." warning and click OK. Close Elements and then start it again.
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Post by Moto on Dec 31, 2016 7:37:32 GMT
Moto - Again, would you please explain where and when you would use this? I'm not understanding at all. I've been using Shift + Return when entering a line of text, not in a text box, since Elements 3. I never noticed when Adobe changed it to a return only. Until yesterday I never realized that Abode changed the behavior of using Return only. Explanation: The purpose of using the Shift + Return was to avoid the problem that Inspeqtor had. Mis-aligned text on the left hand side, which was caused by using a Return at the of a line of text. The Return caused the line of text to be committed to a layer. And for the next line of text you would need to click for the start position for a new line of text - causing mis-aligned start of text lines. I had the problem with Elements 3 and the fix was using Shift + Return. |
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Post by BuckSkin on Dec 31, 2016 12:42:45 GMT
Before reading this thread, I was not aware that one could apply text WITHOUT first making a text box.
Is there ever any advantage to NOT using a text box ?
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Post by cats4jan on Dec 31, 2016 13:40:35 GMT
Is there ever any advantage to NOT using a text box ? I don't see why using a text box would ever be a problem. I do place text without a text box, but usually only when doing a word or two - never when there is more text than a few words. This is a habit I see no reason to change. Way back in this thread, Sepiana expressed her reservations with using a text box and copy/paste because when one uses copy/paste, the font, size, etc. carries over from where you copied, but I do not see this as a problem as font and size can easily be changed after pasting into text box. Plus, my experience is that you cannot paste without a text box.As I stated before, I like text boxes because of their versatility. After filling your box with text... If you highlight your text first, changing the shape/size of the text box, realigns the lines of text. If you do not highlight the text first, changing the shape/size of the text box, changes the size/shape of the text itself. |
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Post by Sepiana on Dec 31, 2016 16:57:40 GMT
Is there ever any advantage to NOT using a text box ? BuckSkin,
I believe that using or not using a Text Box depends on the nature of your project. Frankly, if I had paid more attention to what Charles wanted -- just align the text on the left edge and have all the text strings on one layer, I would NOT have a suggested a Text Box. He asked for an easier way to do it. All he had to do was press the Return key after he typed the first line instead of the Commit button (green check mark). Elements is designed to handle it! On the other hand, if he wanted a more formatted text, for example, with alignment on the right edge as well, then using the Text Box would be the way to go.
One thing about using a Text Box is that there is a limitation. Another program’s font won’t copy into Elements; it will paste itself as the last font you used in Elements. For example, if you type your text in Word using the Tahoma font, this will happen when you copy/paste your text into the Text Box. Elements will automatically change the font of your copied/pasted text into the last font visible in the Type Tool's Option bar, i.e., the last font you used. Yes, I am aware you can change the font easily or make sure that you do your "font-matching" before you begin your project. However, this is a limitation that many users of Elements, particularly new ones, are not aware of. Usually their first reaction is that there is something wrong with the Type tool and they proceed to reset this tool or, even worse, to reset the Preferences file.
In short, as it happens with so many features and tools in Elements, there is a place/time for the use of a Text Box.
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